Afghan

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A population of about 40m people

How many realistically are going to flee to other countries?

[JamesWales]

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A population of about 40m people

How many realistically are going to flee to other countries?

About 5%-10% maybe. The majority to neighbouring countries. Will be interesting to see what happens with Turkey / Greece.

Depends on what the Taliban are like mind and if they even try to prevent people leaving..they may even encourage it.

[Croesy Blue]

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About 5%-10% maybe. The majority to neighbouring countries. Will be interesting to see what happens with Turkey / Greece.

Depends on what the Taliban are like mind and if they even try to prevent people leaving..they may even encourage it.

What are you basing 5-10% on?

[Trigger]

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Very few as a percentage I'd guess. The very most desperate and those with little reason to stay.

One reporter was walking around the centre yesterday, shops were open, girls were walking around chatting, people were sitting down for ice cream and coffee. Looked fairly civilised.

I'm aware the situation in other areas of the city is very different, certainly other reports from rural areas but to some Afghans it's not yet the all out carnage the media portrays.

I'm sure it will get worse, particularly for females.

Taliban PR is in overdrive at the moment, when the cameras and attention goes though so will the planes and people will be stuck there.

[JamesWales]

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What are you basing 5-10% on?

Just a guess. But I think the Syrian civil war was about 25% of its population fleeing abroad. The Taliban will either be very repressive or horrific but if a war doesn't ensue then you wouldn't anticipate numbers as high as Syria.

[life on mars]

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A population of about 40m people

How many realistically are going to flee to other countries?

40 million ?? 70k ish Taliban , perhaps they are a lot more Taliban friendlies / believers in Afghanistan than we really appreciate ?

[xsnaggle]

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40 million ?? 70k ish Taliban , perhaps they are a lot more Taliban friendlies / believers in Afghanistan than we really appreciate ?

How many of the people "fleeing" might in fact be terrorists going into european countries as sleepers?
No that wouldnt happen would it? It couldnt could it?

[lardy]

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How many of the people "fleeing" might in fact be terrorists going into european countries as sleepers?
No that wouldnt happen would it? It couldnt could it?

You mean as part of the evacuees? I think they're just taking those who had worked with our side, but it looks chaotic so not impossible that someone could sneak through.

But really, what's the alternative? Help no one, just in case?

[az city]

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How many of the people "fleeing" might in fact be terrorists going into european countries as sleepers?
No that wouldnt happen would it? It couldnt could it?

A humanitarian crisis and all you're concerned about is imagined "sleepers"?

[RonnieBird]

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Forgetting all the news spin and propaganda, most won’t flee because they’re perfectly happy living in the way they’ve lived and chosen to live for centuries and millennia .

We might not like it, but it’s still their choice and if they preferred our ways they’d have adopted them long ago.

In the same way as you probably don’t want them to come here and introduce shariah law in your street, truth is they don’t want anyone to go there and introduce feminism , abortion or gay marriage.

We must try and rescue the people our governments have alienated from their own people and mourn the poor soldiers who’s lives were thrown away on this horrible latter day crusade, but accept that if they wanted our customs and supervision , they wouldn’t have chucked us out.

[lardy]

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A humanitarian crisis and all you're concerned about is imagined "sleepers"?

I remember the same being said (by the same people) about Syrians.

The fact is, we are more susceptible to terrorism now, and the Taliban are quite capable of getting people into Europe further down the line. They don't need to sneak sleepers on these planes.

[az city]

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Forgetting all the news spin and propaganda, most won’t flee because they’re perfectly happy living in the way they’ve lived and chosen to live for centuries and millennia .

We might not like it, but it’s still their choice and if they preferred our ways they’d have adopted them long ago.

In the same way as you probably don’t want them to come here and introduce shariah law in your street, truth is they don’t want anyone to go there and introduce feminism , abortion or gay marriage.

We must try and rescue the people our governments have alienated from their own people and mourn the poor soldiers who’s lives were thrown away on this horrible latter day crusade, but accept that if they wanted our customs and supervision , they wouldn’t have chucked us out.

You honestly think ordinary Afghans have a free choice over the way they live? That's utter bollocks.

[RonnieBird]

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Do you have a free choice how you live then ?

Not a matter of everyone suddenly doing what they want, but if there were an appetite for “democracy “ it’d have gradually worked its way in over centuries as it has in the West.

[Croesy Blue]

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Do you have a free choice how you live then ?

Not a matter of everyone suddenly doing what they want, but if there were an appetite for “democracy “ it’d have gradually worked its way in over centuries as it has in the West.

Maybe one of the stupidest posts we’ve ever had on here fair play.

[RonnieBird]

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By the way, it’s ****ng ridiculous to jump on what I posted as if I’m defending or recommending fundamental Islam then simply ignore the fact that what I said is true and practical.