Joe Ralls

[jon1959]

Re: Joe Ralls

�� Sure.. Ralls have been a first team player for a decade. No one has played to his strengths or developed him. Im not surprised it’s called “gibberish”, and we haven’t moved an inch.

No, let me try again.

'Your post was incoherent gibberish' does not refer to Joe Ralls' playing style, his strengths, attributes, skills, energy or anything else of that sort.

It refers to your mangled use of words and your garbled construction of sentences.

Maybe you chose all the right words, but you didn't necessarily to put them in the right order (to misquote the great Eric Morcambe)?

Anyway, thanks again for your latest attempt to explain your thinking. Maybe if you studied OGS as bit more (if that is possible) you would get less tangled in alphabet soup. He would also show you the approved method of speaking in football cliches. Worth a try?

[Hilts]

Re: Joe Ralls

We can blame manager influence, but he's also responsible for looking after himself and his career as well. He's a grown man.

All the managers weve had have cleary seen Ralls has vital to their teams.

Hes doing what they want.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Joe Ralls

All the managers weve had have cleary seen Ralls has vital to their teams.

Hes doing what they want.

Of course he is.

That still doesn't mean he should all of a sudden be a player who's shit scared of the ball.

[AfricanBluebird]

Re: Joe Ralls

Why is it wrong to pick out performances? Professional footballers that use the ball like a live grenade? I think if it isn't unnecessary abuse then it's fair game.

I think our team, as a collective, aren't good enough, aren't being coached well, are playing in an awful system and the balance of the team isn't right.

I don't think anyone had a very poor game today. I just think collectively we are poor for the above reasons.

I would rate all players a 5 today, the manager and formation a 1.

I didn't think Ralls was our worst player but we are expecting him and the rest of the team to do something that the system and their own ability won't allow. Mick had the opportunity in this transfer window to inject some pace, passing and creativity with a few signings and that would have helped the whole team. He didn't and we are suffering for it.

So I stick by my point that I think it IS unfair to pick on individuals for today's performance. There will be of course other games where that would be appropriate, but today highlighted collective weaknesses.

[Hilts]

Re: Joe Ralls

Of course he is.

That still doesn't mean he should all of a sudden be a player who's shit scared of the ball.

I dont think he is. Dont get this he always seems to want it and is available for a pass.

The execution is the issue.

[surge]

Re: Joe Ralls

Warnock'isms:

- Pack heading the ball to go behind him without looking to see what was there.

- Ralls seeing wurzel's on the break decides to pull him down despite having a defensive number advantage and consequence is cheap booking and slowing the game down. City's attacking momentum lost but completing the task of slowing the game down.

Ralls was much better than Pack today, except for last 20 minutes, with the latter looking far below his average so far this season, but when Pack goes forward it leaves Ralls too isolated because...

But should the defence get away without criticism? Other teams playing 3 at the back allow a player to step forward into midfield which we can't do because that player is Flint. He's usually got the easiest role on the pitch but that's because he's only doing part of the job of his position requires.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Joe Ralls

I think our team, as a collective, aren't good enough, aren't being coached well, are playing in an awful system and the balance of the team isn't right.

I don't think anyone had a very poor game today. I just think collectively we are poor for the above reasons.

I would rate all players a 5 today, the manager and formation a 1.

I didn't think Ralls was our worst player but we are expecting him and the rest of the team to do something that the system and their own ability won't allow. Mick had the opportunity in this transfer window to inject some pace, passing and creativity with a few signings and that would have helped the whole team. He didn't and we are suffering for it.

So I stick by my point that I think it IS unfair to pick on individuals for today's performance. There will be of course other games where that would be appropriate, but today highlighted collective weaknesses.

Well I don't, nobody is bashing the players and I doubt Mick says to players to treat the ball like a hot potato :thumbup:

I don't like our system either and I think Mick is terrible at game management, but individuals need to be held accountable.

[Fine Lines]

Re: Joe Ralls

For me I don’t think it’s even that we lack the ability to pass. We just don’t move to show for the ball whatsoever. This leaves the only option a percentage ball into the channel or to our strikers head.

I have no idea what our tactics are. If the plan is get crosses in the box then we need wingers who can cross for that.

If the plan is to develop our passing and hold the ball more , then let’s move , fast crisp passing to move their players around and create space.

If we are going to hit it long , then let’s get players around more , and run off him and behind. At the times today he was completely isolated.

[Wolfmother]

Re: Joe Ralls

No, let me try again.

'Your post was incoherent gibberish' does not refer to Joe Ralls' playing style, his strengths, attributes, skills, energy or anything else of that sort.

It refers to your mangled use of words and your garbled construction of sentences.

Maybe you chose all the right words, but you didn't necessarily to put them in the right order (to misquote the great Eric Morcambe)?

Anyway, thanks again for your latest attempt to explain your thinking. Maybe if you studied OGS as bit more (if that is possible) you would get less tangled in alphabet soup. He would also show you the approved method of speaking in football cliches. Worth a try?

🤣 And here you are. Not moving an inch.. for close to a decade.. here is a clishe! To understand your future, you first have to understand your past 😘

[MacAdder]

Re: Joe Ralls

No biggie today, he played exactly how he normally plays.

Gets the ball, turns into space and passes it.
Offers himself like he really wants it to try and create something, may play a telling ball once in a while, but often does very little.

Pops up in areas with space to receive the ball within shooting range and invariably splays it sideways, though he might have a shot but it is usually rather tame.

I am not "bashing" the guy but Joe unfortunately is an up and down box to box midfielder and nothing more.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Joe Ralls

No biggie today, he played exactly how he normally plays.

Gets the ball, turns into space and passes it.
Offers himself like he really wants it to try and create something, may play a telling ball once in a while, but often does very little.

Pops up in areas with space to receive the ball within shooting range and invariably splays it sideways, though he might have a shot but it is usually rather tame.

I am not "bashing" the guy but Joe unfortunately is an up and down box to box midfielder and nothing more.

Nothing wrong with him being one, but he used to have a bit of composure on the ball once upon a time.

[Tuerto]

Re: Joe Ralls

No, let me try again.

'Your post was incoherent gibberish' does not refer to Joe Ralls' playing style, his strengths, attributes, skills, energy or anything else of that sort.

It refers to your mangled use of words and your garbled construction of sentences.

Maybe you chose all the right words, but you didn't necessarily to put them in the right order (to misquote the great Eric Morcambe)?

Anyway, thanks again for your latest attempt to explain your thinking. Maybe if you studied OGS as bit more (if that is possible) you would get less tangled in alphabet soup. He would also show you the approved method of speaking in football cliches. Worth a try?

If this bloke isn't a wind up, which I strongly believe he is, then hasn't he said that he's Norwegian? If so, it's a bloody decent attempt in my opinion. Although I'm betting his name is Phil and he lives in gabalfa.

[AfricanBluebird]

Re: Joe Ralls

Well I don't, nobody is bashing the players and I doubt Mick says to players to treat the ball like a hot potato :thumbup:

I don't like our system either and I think Mick is terrible at game management, but individuals need to be held accountable.

It's all about opinions

I think most of us agree though that we aren't a good footballing side and look much worse than Mick's Cardiff side of last season.

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Joe Ralls

It's all about opinions

I think most of us agree though that we aren't a good footballing side and look much worse than Mick's Cardiff side of last season.

That we do.

Nothing wrong with opinions either, hence us both having one on this thread :thumbup:

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Joe Ralls

Well I don't, nobody is bashing the players and I doubt Mick says to players to treat the ball like a hot potato :thumbup:

I don't like our system either and I think Mick is terrible at game management, but individuals need to be held accountable.

I think you’re both on the money. All I would do is take out AfricanBluebird’s last paragraph, replace it with your last paragraph and it’s a perfect summary. I’m big on personal responsibility; that includes both manager and individual performances. Some of the basics from MM and the players was woeful.

The starting 11 was a mess. The formation was a mess. We played down the right hand side with Giles for most of the first half. Nothing to offer on the left. No switching play. Nothing through the middle and no precision to exploit our limited attacking options. Don’t know what it was like on TV but up close and personal it was pretty shocking.