food prices to rise

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There’s good of em.

Good old Tories.

Would you prefer it was more difficult?

You're kind of missing the point about the orphan crushing machine.

[Rjk]

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Without wanting to detract from the point you are making, the Tories made it far easier for people to access foodbanks. This has caused a significant uplift in their use. There are undoubtedly other factors

I think Oxfam did a study that suggested that demand was driving greater supply and not the other way around.
most users are there because
of acute issues like benefits being late or withdrawn

[Harry Lime]

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Apart from the driver shortage there is, and will continue to be an abundance of food rotting in fields as there are way less pickers/packers.

Oven ready!

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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I think Oxfam did a study that suggested that demand was driving greater supply and not the other way around.
most users are there because
of acute issues like benefits being late or withdrawn

Indeed. It's noticeable how food bank usage has grown during the Covid pandemic, despite a minor boost to people's benefits. When benefits are cut back to previous levels, food bank usage will go up again.

To quote the chief exec of the Trussell Trust - “No one should face the indignity of needing emergency food. Yet our network of food banks has given out record numbers of food parcels as more and more people struggle without enough money for the essentials."

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I think Oxfam did a study that suggested that demand was driving greater supply and not the other way around.
most users are there because
of acute issues like benefits being late or withdrawn

what is the difference between subsidising your income via benefits or via foodbanks? In either case you are reliant on a third party to help maintain a very basic existence. Why is it acceptable to be reliant on benefits but not foodbanks? Sounds like politicking for the sake of it, rather than looking at the root cause.

we're back to the orphan crushing machine again...

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I think Oxfam did a study that suggested that demand was driving greater supply and not the other way around.
most users are there because
of acute issues like benefits being late or withdrawn

I am sure there is merit in that. I'm also sure that when you make a service more accessible for people, use of service is increased. Whether you accept that or stick your head in the sand depends on your politics, and nothing else.

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what is the difference between subsidising your income via benefits or via foodbanks? In either case you are reliant on a third party to help maintain a very basic existence. Why is it acceptable to be reliant on benefits but not foodbanks? Sounds like politicking for the sake of it, rather than looking at the root cause.

we're back to the orphan crushing machine again...

ask anyone in the queue at a food bank if they would prefer to have benefits money or access to a food bank.

[ninian opinian]

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what is the difference between subsidising your income via benefits or via foodbanks? In either case you are reliant on a third party to help maintain a very basic existence. Why is it acceptable to be reliant on benefits but not foodbanks? Sounds like politicking for the sake of it, rather than looking at the root cause.

we're back to the orphan crushing machine again...

We are back to feck the poor let’s line the richest in societies pockets again. Covid contracts for donors for one. Level up be buggered.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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what is the difference between subsidising your income via benefits or via foodbanks? In either case you are reliant on a third party to help maintain a very basic existence. Why is it acceptable to be reliant on benefits but not foodbanks? Sounds like politicking for the sake of it, rather than looking at the root cause.

we're back to the orphan crushing machine again...

Food banks do not subsidise income. They provide food. Food you do not choose but are given. Income from unemployment or disability payments are cash and allow the recipient to manage their cash flow accordingly i.e they have independence. This is a very important part of people's lives and something I'm sure you take for granted.

Would you be prepared to be paid in food as opposed to cash? Stop with this notion that food is a subsidy to income.

And what on earth does 'orphan crushing machine' mean? I don't understand.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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It's not the hungry who gain most from food banks – it's big business

[lardy]

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ask anyone in the queue at a food bank if they would prefer to have benefits money or access to a food bank.

Ewww Tories don't talk to them. Ewww.

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ask anyone in the queue at a food bank if they would prefer to have benefits money or access to a food bank.

I don't disagree. But that is not what I asked.

You, and a few others, make out that the use of food banks is bad but the use of benefits and the welfare state is good. In a wealthy nation such as the UK, the need for either is criminal. Successive governments of all colours have failed to address the problem, and once again we're back to the orphan crushing machine.

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Food banks do not subsidise income. They provide food. Food you do not choose but are given. Income from unemployment or disability payments are cash and allow the recipient to manage their cash flow accordingly i.e they have independence. This is a very important part of people's lives and something I'm sure you take for granted.

Would you be prepared to be paid in food as opposed to cash? Stop with this notion that food is a subsidy to income.

And what on earth does 'orphan crushing machine' mean? I don't understand.

when I said income I meant wealth, the ability to feed yourself etc, and not necessarily disposable cash. you have also missed the point being made - why is it ok to receive benefits but not parcels from foodbanks? or let me put it another way, why is the use of benefits seen as being acceptable when we know the use of foodbanks is not?

read up about the orphan crushing machine, its a well known trope on social media.

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We are back to feck the poor let’s line the richest in societies pockets again. Covid contracts for donors for one. Level up be buggered.

is that what you have taken from what I have posted? you've completely ignored the message that here in the UK, one of the richest nations on the planet, people still needs benefits, welfare and foodbanks to ensure they have the basics required of life.

maybe you need to stop being so party political and start looking and what is being written.