The Bluebirds Academy and DVP thread...

[Blue in the Face]

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U18s team vs Crewe...

Ratcliffe, Kelly, Coxe, Welch, Baldwin, Young, Davies, Bowen, Harris, Waite, So Sani

Subs - Madden, Coughlan, Williams, Bodenham, Davies

[the other bob wilson]

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The Under 23s are at home to Charlton today, Kick off 2 o clock at Leckwith - that's going by what the club website is saying at the moment mind and they have been wrong on at least a couple of occasions this season. It's probably best to look at the Development team twitter feed

https://twitter.com/cardiffcitydvp?lang=en

within the hour before kick off for confirmation of the venue.

According to the club website, most Under 23 home games are going to revert to Monday night 7 pm kick offs at Cardiff City Stadium after today, with the first of them being on Halloween night against Palace.

[Alfonso Perez]

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The game is at Leckwith

[the other bob wilson]

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Murphy, Kennedy, Ajayi and Zohore in starting eleven.

https://twitter.com/cardiffcitydvp?lang=en

[Blue in the Face]

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Back to an older and much more experienced line up than in previous games against one of the best teams we will come up against. We could see this coming after players like Mark Harris were fielded a couple of days ago for the academy side. Senior keeper Murphy getting some game time

DVP: Murphy, Baker, Tutonda, Patten, Ajayi, James, Southam, O’Sullivan, Zohore, Kennedy, Weymans.

Subs: Blaise, Byrne, Rees, Humphries, Bird.

[the other bob wilson]

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The final score (0-0) makes the game sound better than it actually was.

[the other bob wilson]

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A report on today's non event if anyone's interested.

http://mauveandyellowarmy.net/

[Colonel Cærdiffi]

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A report on today's non event if anyone's interested.

http://mauveandyellowarmy.net/

Zohore not doing much for the under 23's either then?

[Blue in the Face]

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A report on today's non event if anyone's interested.

http://mauveandyellowarmy.net/

Thanks again! Perhaps the uneventful performance can be forgiven seeing that line up changed so much for the DVPers of late...

Sounds like we were playing three centre backs again. Is that right? Perhaps this is the formation which best suits Tom James if anyone in the DVP

[the other bob wilson]

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Zohore not doing much for the under 23's either then?

He's a frustrating player because there was one incident which summed up the sort of player he is currently perfectly. He showed pace and skill that would not look out of place in the first team to get to the byeline in a run down the left, but then he spoiled all of his good work with a cross that was yards away from any City player - I can remember a similar type of run on the other side of the pitch in the Bristol Rovers when he ruined a very promising situation by trying a shot from a ridiculous angle.

Apart from that one thing, he was pretty anonymous throughout a game in which some played fairly well, but no one did enough in my book to suggest they should be in the first team squad.

[the other bob wilson]

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Thanks again! Perhaps the uneventful performance can be forgiven seeing that line up changed so much for the DVPers of late...

Sounds like we were playing three centre backs again. Is that right? Perhaps this is the formation which best suits Tom James if anyone in the DVP

Yes, they did play three at the back and I agree that it is a system which suits Tom James - he got forward once or twice in open play in the closing stages. However, having used the three at the back system with some success earlier in the season, it's been like watching the first team try to play it in the two home matches they've played in the past eight days - no goals and no real suggestion of them, certainly not from our striker(s) who have looked as isolated as those in the first team do.

Sorry, but I've seen little to commend from the City in the last two home games - the Warnock effect has definitely not reached the Development team yet.

[thehumblegringo]

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https://youtu.be/HsmE1pNNLgk

That's a great goal to be fair

[thehumblegringo]

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Contrary to many on here I'm not a big fan of Kevin Nicholson.

I don't know if anyone follows him on twitter but all he and Michael Johnson do is tweet about Derby fecking County!

I find it bizarre that he does this unchallenged when he has such a prominent role at our club.

Add to this that I noticed last season if the first team lost (for example) 3-2 he would set up a question and answer session on twitter about defending and if we drew 0-0 he would set up a question and answer session a with the subject on how to break teams down!!!

I don't think someone with such a position should be undermining the management on social media.

He has taken a lot of the plaudits yet his dvp team often fielded experience pro's like Saadi, Ameobi, Kennedy, etc as well as players like Wharton, O'Sullivan etc who are of an age where they should be playing first team football.

They often played against teams full of 18 and 19 year olds so I would expect them to win.

I know it's not his fault that we still have players in their early 20s at the club who still have no prospect of breaking through to the first team but I'm just highlighting some of the reasons for last year's perceived success.

The team he played on the weekend should be the type of team that played against Barnsley is what DVP squad should look like in my opinion. I fear the horse has already bolted for Wharton, O'Sullivan and Co and we should be looking to push through players like Harris, Coxe, Abbruzzese etc to see if they can push on.

[Blue in the Face]

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Here are the club websites write ups on the DVP/Academy games. (Both written by a guy called Alex Cutler)

DVP: CARDIFF CITY 0-0 CHARLTON ATHLETIC

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/dvp-cardiff-city-0-0-charlton-athletic-3369304.aspx?

U18 | CARDIFF CITY 4-1 CREWE ALEXANDRA

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/u18-cardiff-city-4-1-crewe-alexandra-3365871.aspx?

Yes, they did play three at the back and I agree that it is a system which suits Tom James - he got forward once or twice in open play in the closing stages. However, having used the three at the back system with some success earlier in the season, it's been like watching the first team try to play it in the two home matches they've played in the past eight days - no goals and no real suggestion of them, certainly not from our striker(s) who have looked as isolated as those in the first team do.

Sorry, but I've seen little to commend from the City in the last two home games - the Warnock effect has definitely not reached the Development team yet.

I'm glad you give an honest account of the performances. What's the use of not being any other way? Trust is probably why lots of folks look to your blog for your viewpoint.

Contrary to many on here I'm not a big fan of Kevin Nicholson.

I don't know if anyone follows him on twitter but all he and Michael Johnson do is tweet about Derby fecking County!

I find it bizarre that he does this unchallenged when he has such a prominent role at our club.

Add to this that I noticed last season if the first team lost (for example) 3-2 he would set up a question and answer session on twitter about defending and if we drew 0-0 he would set up a question and answer session a with the subject on how to break teams down!!!

I don't think someone with such a position should be undermining the management on social media.

He has taken a lot of the plaudits yet his dvp team often fielded experience pro's like Saadi, Ameobi, Kennedy, etc as well as players like Wharton, O'Sullivan etc who are of an age where they should be playing first team football.

They often played against teams full of 18 and 19 year olds so I would expect them to win.

I know it's not his fault that we still have players in their early 20s at the club who still have no prospect of breaking through to the first team but I'm just highlighting some of the reasons for last year's perceived success.

The team he played on the weekend should be the type of team that played against Barnsley is what DVP squad should look like in my opinion. I fear the horse has already bolted for Wharton, O'Sullivan and Co and we should be looking to push through players like Harris, Coxe, Abbruzzese etc to see if they can push on.

Gringo, you'll be in a much better position than me to judge Nicholson as you see the DVP/Acedemy games in full. But I have to add to your skepticism on his public persona. I've always thought he talks in football cliches and fails to be his own man. Another issue is that Nicholson isn't coming from a position of being an ex-pro. If he is to be a great manager in the making then fine, there are other ways to become a good coach/manager than the ex-player route.

But I am concerned that the likes of O'Sullivan, who does have talent, has stagnated over the past two years because perhaps they don't have the ex-pro mentor. Can we honestly say that Tommy looks a better player under Nicholson than he did under Ardley? I think Tommy is a good example because he's exactly the type who has shown the potential to come good if coached correctly. I've felt for a while that if Tommy had more urgency drilled into his game, he could be playing at a decent level by now. He certainly should've been in a position where a league club was demanding to take him on loan, which would've been beneficial to all.

[Blue in the Face]

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Triffic away win for the DVPers tonight. Here's the team...

O'Reilly, Rees, Abbruzzese, Baker, Blaise, James, Southam, Patten, Phipps, O'Sullivan, Weymans.

subs: Menayese, Byrne, Welch, Wharton.

Ipswich match report...

TOWN U23S 0 CARDIFF 1

http://www.itfc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/ipswich-town-u23s-0-cardiff-1-3382141.aspx?