Phillips & Nelson

[Bald Barry Bastad]

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I would go McGuiness - Flint - Brown

You would play Brown. What the hell have you seen in him that makes you think that's a good idea?

[FormerlyJohnnyBreadhead]

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The problems kick in when our defenders have to think, are given time on the ball. They will give it straight back or end up in a compromised position. In fairness though, they have little option in midfield.

Think that last sentence is a little unfair. Vaulks is a headless chicken that makes Harry Arter look composed, and Bacuna is Bacuna, but Pack, Ralls and Bowen (when he plays) all regularly show for the ball and come deep. They just get completely chinned off because Flint has spotted a ball on in the sixth row of the stand (or because Mick has told them to launch it whenever they have it).

[Bald Barry Bastad]

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Think that last sentence is a little unfair. Vaulks is a headless chicken that makes Harry Arter look composed, and Bacuna is Bacuna, but Pack, Ralls and Bowen (when he plays) all regularly show for the ball and come deep. They just get completely chinned off because Flint has spotted a ball on in the sixth row of the stand (or because Mick has told them to launch it whenever they have it).

Mick has told them to launch it whenever they have it.

[dembethewarrior]

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You got to be f**king taking the pi$$. !!!!!!!!!!!

Brown should be no-where near, ever wearing a Cardiff City shirt again.

He shouldn't play centre back because he was bad playing at LWB?

[WJ99mobile]

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Nothing wrong with Brown, apart from the fact, that he can't trap a ball, pass the ball straight head the ball properly or position himself to put the attacking forward on the wrong foot.
He's nailed on starter for Mick as he can hoof it with the best of them

He was out of position to be fair to him where the others are in a more natural place and still looked as bad

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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Yup, but I suppose it depends on what we want our defenders to do. When they're on form, every one of them is good at stopping the opposition, but that's what they should be good at, it's the minimum requirement for a defender. Stopping other players is much easier than showing a bit of control, balance, intelligence on the ball etc. Evidence for that is the fact that Robbie savage made a top flight career out of it, although he had the luxury of being able to give the ball to players who could create.

The problems kick in when our defenders have to think, are given time on the ball. They will give it straight back or end up in a compromised position. In fairness though, they have little option in midfield.

Teams have sussed us, let our back 9 have the ball, they will give it back after the second or third move because they are so limited and have no options. What a luxury for the opposition, a manager, set of players and tactics that work for them! It's pretty simple, let Cardiff hang themselves, don't play their physical game, don't go chasing the ball. Chances will arise simply due to us having the ball. The worst thing for us is anything over 40% possession. That's how Intrinsic our anti football style of play is.

There you have it. :thumbup:

[BLUETIT]

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He shouldn't play centre back because he was bad playing at LWB?

He was out of position to be fair to him where the others are in a more natural place and still looked as bad

Na, he's just shite where ever he plays.

He can't turn, can't run, he can't even launch the ball forward.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

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Na, he's just shite where ever he plays.

He can't turn, can't run, he can't even launch the ball forward.

Also noticed he was consistently beaten in the air by the smaller player last night so his athletic ability is questionable too

[Tuerto]

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There you have it. :thumbup:

It's an all time low when all the opposition have to do is keep their shape and wait for the ball to come back to them, they don't even have to press. We are ****ed. Last season, teams decided to get at us and press higher-up. Not now. They don't have to.

[Rhiwbina Blues]

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Cant blame the players when played out of position by their useless manager and told to hoof the ball whenever possible to our best player who sat on the bench.

McCarthy out

[Dorcus]

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Nelson is absolute rubbish and Phillips needs a break. Come to think of it that applies to nearly all our team; can we loan some reserve team from the National League? We may see an improvement!

[blue lewj]

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You got to be f**king taking the pi$$. !!!!!!!!!!!

Brown should be no-where near, ever wearing a Cardiff City shirt again.

Mick said that he did well and that he was correct with his decision to play 5 at the back.

I wish I was joking but he said this.

[life on mars]

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Nelson has the look of a rabbit caught in the headlights of an oncoming car whenever he's in possession of the ball.
To say he's a limited player is an understatement.. League One player at best!

I have seen him play well and showed promise particular under Harris, he was a Div 1 player developing into a Championship ,that progression has indeed been halted

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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I have seen him play well and showed promise particular under Harris, he was a Div 1 player developing into a Championship ,that progression has indeed been halted

Without a doubt, there have been times when he's rolled up his sleeves and really got stuck in, however, the quality has never been there.

[cardiff55]

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To be fair Brown has been playing better (in his two games), than Morrison or Nelson. Play him at CB instead alongside Flint. We needed two new full backs in the summer and bought nobody. So we have Ng, Sand and McGuinness playing right back in successive games and Bagan or Brown at left back every other game! Mad.