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[Whisperer]

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Well done mate. You’ve shared snippets of your story before it before but never in that depth. You were probably the first person on these forums to offer me some words of advice with addiction and I don’t forget it. ����

Thanks Hartley....I thought about our chats when I was reading about how far you have come in your recovery, your family must be made up.

[J R Hartley]

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Thanks Hartley....I thought about our chats when I was reading about how far you have come in your recovery, your family must be made up.

Ive been very fortunate the family being there for me. Not just my missus, but parents too. I realise everyone not so lucky To have that support.. My old man offered to pay my remaining debts the other day but he did that once before and I racked up new debt so I rejected the offer. I just want to finish paying myself and then start a clean slate.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Well my story is that I didn't clean up and get sober because I had a few bad weekends or i didn't like the way I was acting, drink & drugs was a fecking nightmare that lasted for 25 years. I had never heard of getting sober for the first 20 years.

I started drinking and getting high in the bus shelters and train stations at age 11 drinking flagons of cider and i was a useless drinker couldn't handle it, obnoxious, argumentative and loved picking fights and causing trouble, you know the type. Then one day I discovered Black Bombers wow I could drink with the big boys and off I went into another bender that lasted a decade.

I won't bore you with a drug-a-log but there's not many i can think of that I ain't tasted apart from glue and sniffing petrol which just didn't interest me.

I done my first detox in East Harlem when I was messing around in NYC in 1997 and the NA and AA fellowship came into talk to us and when I left the hospital I attended a few meetings and I suppose from that day on I knew there was another way to live life. It took me another 3 years to get into a detox in London by this time i was smashed to bits...regularly attending soup kitchens, picking buts up of the floor, begging and all the rest of it.

I remember one time I was going to score some smack & crack across town on the tube, I used to wear a little Cardiff City pin and I bumped into a fella with his son who had a city shirt on and they were on the way back from an away game it was the happiest day of that year because it took me back to times when I was okay with myself and i give the little kid my pin. I also remember the Geordie s down for the FA cup and some of them give me some change.

NYE 2000 was the night that something changed inside, deep down in my sub-conscience after 25 years of using boozing and abusing my desire was to go back into detox and go back to the meetings. I got my first day sober in September 2000 and have not had a mood altering chemical since...I ended up working for 15 years in a detox center and seen even more horrors than I had been through, but I also came across program people who after many years picked up a glass of shandy or an over the counter Nurofen plus who could never get back to a day sober.

So I take my recovery really ****ing seriously and will make no apologies for it, for me alcohol free beer is what i call tickling the devils bollox and I avoid it at all costs, to be honest I really can't see the point of it, I'm a lime and soda man these days.

I do agree with Underhill that there's different ways of staying stopped but 12 step is the most successful treatment program worldwide. we are all different but real alcoholism and addiction is the same and needs treating.

Today I live a fantastic simple life I still go to meetings because someone has to be there when someone new walks through the door and needs a cup of coffee and a chat which is second nature these days.

I look back and tell folk that I only ever had two blackouts the 80s & the 90s

I wish everyone well in their recovery.

Top man

Keep on that road mate 👍

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Well my story is that I didn't clean up and get sober because I had a few bad weekends or i didn't like the way I was acting, drink & drugs was a fecking nightmare that lasted for 25 years. I had never heard of getting sober for the first 20 years.

I started drinking and getting high in the bus shelters and train stations at age 11 drinking flagons of cider and i was a useless drinker couldn't handle it, obnoxious, argumentative and loved picking fights and causing trouble, you know the type. Then one day I discovered Black Bombers wow I could drink with the big boys and off I went into another bender that lasted a decade.

I won't bore you with a drug-a-log but there's not many i can think of that I ain't tasted apart from glue and sniffing petrol which just didn't interest me.

I done my first detox in East Harlem when I was messing around in NYC in 1997 and the NA and AA fellowship came into talk to us and when I left the hospital I attended a few meetings and I suppose from that day on I knew there was another way to live life. It took me another 3 years to get into a detox in London by this time i was smashed to bits...regularly attending soup kitchens, picking buts up of the floor, begging and all the rest of it.

I remember one time I was going to score some smack & crack across town on the tube, I used to wear a little Cardiff City pin and I bumped into a fella with his son who had a city shirt on and they were on the way back from an away game it was the happiest day of that year because it took me back to times when I was okay with myself and i give the little kid my pin. I also remember the Geordie s down for the FA cup and some of them give me some change.

NYE 2000 was the night that something changed inside, deep down in my sub-conscience after 25 years of using boozing and abusing my desire was to go back into detox and go back to the meetings. I got my first day sober in September 2000 and have not had a mood altering chemical since...I ended up working for 15 years in a detox center and seen even more horrors than I had been through, but I also came across program people who after many years picked up a glass of shandy or an over the counter Nurofen plus who could never get back to a day sober.

So I take my recovery really ****ing seriously and will make no apologies for it, for me alcohol free beer is what i call tickling the devils bollox and I avoid it at all costs, to be honest I really can't see the point of it, I'm a lime and soda man these days.

I do agree with Underhill that there's different ways of staying stopped but 12 step is the most successful treatment program worldwide. we are all different but real alcoholism and addiction is the same and needs treating.

Today I live a fantastic simple life I still go to meetings because someone has to be there when someone new walks through the door and needs a cup of coffee and a chat which is second nature these days.

I look back and tell folk that I only ever had two blackouts the 80s & the 90s

I wish everyone well in their recovery.

Inspirational mate, you really are.

We may disagree on alcohol free drinks but your story is an inspiration to me to continue along the sobriety path that I'm on.

[goats]

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Well my story is that I didn't clean up and get sober because I had a few bad weekends or i didn't like the way I was acting, drink & drugs was a fecking nightmare that lasted for 25 years. I had never heard of getting sober for the first 20 years.

I started drinking and getting high in the bus shelters and train stations at age 11 drinking flagons of cider and i was a useless drinker couldn't handle it, obnoxious, argumentative and loved picking fights and causing trouble, you know the type. Then one day I discovered Black Bombers wow I could drink with the big boys and off I went into another bender that lasted a decade.

I won't bore you with a drug-a-log but there's not many i can think of that I ain't tasted apart from glue and sniffing petrol which just didn't interest me.

I done my first detox in East Harlem when I was messing around in NYC in 1997 and the NA and AA fellowship came into talk to us and when I left the hospital I attended a few meetings and I suppose from that day on I knew there was another way to live life. It took me another 3 years to get into a detox in London by this time i was smashed to bits...regularly attending soup kitchens, picking buts up of the floor, begging and all the rest of it.

I remember one time I was going to score some smack & crack across town on the tube, I used to wear a little Cardiff City pin and I bumped into a fella with his son who had a city shirt on and they were on the way back from an away game it was the happiest day of that year because it took me back to times when I was okay with myself and i give the little kid my pin. I also remember the Geordie s down for the FA cup and some of them give me some change.

NYE 2000 was the night that something changed inside, deep down in my sub-conscience after 25 years of using boozing and abusing my desire was to go back into detox and go back to the meetings. I got my first day sober in September 2000 and have not had a mood altering chemical since...I ended up working for 15 years in a detox center and seen even more horrors than I had been through, but I also came across program people who after many years picked up a glass of shandy or an over the counter Nurofen plus who could never get back to a day sober.

So I take my recovery really ****ing seriously and will make no apologies for it, for me alcohol free beer is what i call tickling the devils bollox and I avoid it at all costs, to be honest I really can't see the point of it, I'm a lime and soda man these days.

I do agree with Underhill that there's different ways of staying stopped but 12 step is the most successful treatment program worldwide. we are all different but real alcoholism and addiction is the same and needs treating.

Today I live a fantastic simple life I still go to meetings because someone has to be there when someone new walks through the door and needs a cup of coffee and a chat which is second nature these days.

I look back and tell folk that I only ever had two blackouts the 80s & the 90s

I wish everyone well in their recovery.

Quite a life there whisperer, like what you equate drinking alcohol free beer too, I guess it’s sailing a bit too close to the real thing for those who can’t afford to step over the blurry line?

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Quite a life there whisperer, like what you equate drinking alcohol free beer too, I guess it’s sailing a bit too close to the real thing for those who can’t afford to step over the blurry line?

I can't afford to step over the blurry line, it would cost me my job, fiancé and sanity. Alcohol free drinks don't pose a threat to me though. I can see where Whisperer is coming from but a one size fits all approach to sobriety is a dangerous road to go down.

I don't care how people get sober, as long as they do, and they maintain their sobriety.

[BlueArmy 86]

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I thought he gave closer to 100% in the last two games, and should definitely start against the Jacks.

[UNDERHILL1927]

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I thought he gave closer to 100% in the last two games, and should definitely start against the Jacks.

🤦🏼😂

[goats]

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Just trying the zero Guinness now, it is decent, very close to the real stuff.

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Just trying the zero Guinness now, it is decent, very close to the real stuff.

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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Each to their own but I find the itch for a pint is for the alcoholic content rather than the motion of having a pint, so personally I'd go for the coke, although I don't think alcohol tastes particularly good and only drink it as a means to unwind and get drunk, I don't see the point of "having 1 or 2" after work either I'd rsrher not drink the 2 pints and have a coke.

Weird how we're all so different init.

My thoughts exactly!

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Didn't expect this thread to take the turns it has but I should have known better 🤣🤣 Good discussions though

[dembethewarrior]

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My thoughts exactly!

I started a thread not long back on how I can't drink alcohol with a meal as drinking spoils the food for me.

[Rock_Flock_of_Five]

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I started a thread not long back on how I can't drink alcohol with a meal as drinking spoils the food for me.

Here in China, everyone who goes to a bar eats food with their drink. In fact, it's like the bars here cannot make up their minds whether they want to be a bar or a restaurant!
But I never order or accept any food when I'm out for a drink. The locals look at me and just don't understand my way of thinking.
I tell them that I've already had my tea (dinner) and that I'm not hungry; if I was hungry, I would choose to go to a restaurant instead.
There isn't the same culture of standing in a bar with a drink in your hand or finding a stool at the bar - no, you have to sit at fairly large tables, which soon become littered with dirty dishes, utensils and bones they've spat out.... ugh!

[dembethewarrior]

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Here in China, everyone who goes to a bar eats food with their drink. In fact, it's like the bars here cannot make up their minds whether they want to be a bar or a restaurant!
But I never order or accept any food when I'm out for a drink. The locals look at me and just don't understand my way of thinking.
I tell them that I've already had my tea (dinner) and that I'm not hungry; if I was hungry, I would choose to go to a restaurant instead.
There isn't the same culture of standing in a bar with a drink in your hand or finding a stool at the bar - no, you have to sit at fairly large tables, which soon become littered with dirty dishes, utensils and bones they've spat out.... ugh!

That sounds like a nightmare for me