Tomlin Released

[splott parker]

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£19k to £20k a year man anyone work out the per game cost yet

£19k to £20k a year? I wish:hehe: £400 a week:hehe:

[dembethewarrior]

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Looking back to his low period, Tomlin recalled the start of last season when he was out of favour at promoted Cardiff but unable to secure a move.

He said: “The transfer window had shut, the loan window had shut, I couldn't go anywhere. I found it difficult to find purpose.

“Everything that had happened in previous years, I had probably not dealt with properly and it just exploded.

“As you get older you mature and think more and I started focusing on worst case scenarios. For example after football, what do you do then? And life in general, over-thinking everything took its toll on me.

“You always have bad days in football but to think the sort of things I was thinking at the time, it was obviously a lot deeper than that than your average bad day.

“I was sitting in bed at 2am, 3am with the worst thoughts … about hanging myself, slitting my wrists, sitting there crying. I'd have the tablets in my hand.“

You've posted that, after claiming "it can't be all those managers fault" without actually adding 2 and 2 together and getting 4.
Could it *shock horror* be something to do with his mental health the way he applies himself to his career??

[dembethewarrior]

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A great player when fit and wanting to play football, he was in the top % in the EFL in that aspect, could change a game in a blink of a eye and made it look so easy

a real shame though he had his fitness issues, now when he came back from his injury he really was a fat bloke, something like you see waddling down the road from having a afternoon session down the pub, it was a disgrace, I know he was injured, but the club would have seen this happening and told him to watch what he ate, he made the decision to eat what he liked and way too much of it, which to me is very unprofessional

was it a coincidence that when his contract was up for renewal he seemed to get his head right and stay fit and slim, as son as the contract was signed he put the weight back on, this wasn't just at our club either, its been a pattern to his career

but when fit and slim he would have been the 1st player on the team sheet at most EFL teams

"injured" "waddled"

Bloke had mental health issues.

The ignorance on this board is ****ing staggering.

[blue matt]

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"injured" "waddled"

Bloke had mental health issues.

The ignorance on this board is ****ing staggering.

he was Injured at the end of the season, it was his groin from memory, he tore is again when he came back too soon if I remember correctly

he looked like someone waddling down the road, he put on a lot of weight, I guess through not training and not eating well


good luck to the lad, I hope he sorts his mental health issues out, I really do

[cardiff55]

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I thought that any player who's contract is terminated outside of the transfer window, like now, isn't deemed a free transfer and can only sign for a domestic club when the window reopens. Could be wrong though.

Yes, I think that is correct for a League club. His contract would have to have been cancelled before the last transfer window to be able to sign as a free agent before January. He'll have to wait until January. I'm not sure what the rules are for non League or overseas clubs though.

[LeningradCowboy]

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I still don't really know why we signed Tomlin in the first place. He's the antithesis of a Warnock player.

That being said, we wouldn't have got anywhere near the play-offs in 2019/20 without him. He was properly fit and playing superbly before he did his MCL.

[NYCBlue]

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Well, good point, but... if you were Tomlin would you prefer to....

have to come into training every day, be officially employed by city, attend all the necessary training and PR activities ... for 100% of your salary knowing you will never be fit enough or picked again....

Or

Take a 50% or 40% hit on our contract and be released immediately to pursue whatever interests you have - inside or outside of football.


Personally I would take the latter.

He can get another club in January in England, or abroad now (India?) if he is able to .. or pursue his other business ventures.

As a free agent, can't he get a new club tomorrow?

[J R Hartley]

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As a free agent, can't he get a new club tomorrow?

No

[J R Hartley]

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"injured" "waddled"

Bloke had mental health issues.

The ignorance on this board is ****ing staggering.

A moderator as well. **** me.

[dembethewarrior]

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A moderator as well. **** me.

Got to look beyond his fitness if he has hidden issues, yes he may have been overweight and it looks unprofessional as a pro but surely we need to look at the reason why before passing comment? Nothing against matt who is obviously a decent fella from history, know he's taken time to message me in the past so I wasn't meaning to be harsh to the fella, got carried away with other posters as it was getting to me tbh because people seem to be taking the easy route to pass comment.

I wrote out another message about my own personal situation but I've deleted it as I started to ramble, but mental health puts you in some situations a stronger minded person may deal with better and things don't end up escalating. But it's never simple.

[Llandaff Blue]

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Got to look beyond his fitness if he has hidden issues, yes he may have been overweight and it looks unprofessional as a pro but surely we need to look at the reason why before passing comment? Nothing against matt who is obviously a decent fella from history, know he's taken time to message me in the past so I wasn't meaning to be harsh to the fella, got carried away with other posters as it was getting to me tbh because people seem to be taking the easy route to pass comment.

I wrote out another message about my own personal situation but I've deleted it as I started to ramble, but mental health puts you in some situations a stronger minded person may deal with better and things don't end up escalating. But it's never simple.

Spot on mate, some of the replies here... **** me. Given this place has an average age of about 74 I'm not surprised to see the poor attitude towards mental health.

[Des Parrot]

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£19k to £20k a year man anyone work out the per game cost yet

@ 20k it works out at £80k / game or £14.60 per second

[BLUEAWAY]

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A great player when fit and wanting to play football, he was in the top % in the EFL in that aspect, could change a game in a blink of a eye and made it look so easy

a real shame though he had his fitness issues, now when he came back from his injury he really was a fat bloke, something like you see waddling down the road from having a afternoon session down the pub, it was a disgrace, I know he was injured, but the club would have seen this happening and told him to watch what he ate, he made the decision to eat what he liked and way too much of it, which to me is very unprofessional

was it a coincidence that when his contract was up for renewal he seemed to get his head right and stay fit and slim, as son as the contract was signed he put the weight back on, this wasn't just at our club either, its been a pattern to his career

but when fit and slim he would have been the 1st player on the team sheet at most EFL teams

The problem is that he has never been a ‘great player’. Great players play well regularly and in top flight football. He did neither.

[Bobby Dandruff]

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https://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/news/lee-tomlin-departs

A lot has been written about Tomlin here.

Irrespective of all his issues, I still want to know how a professional footballer can end up in this shape when under contract:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/lee-tomlin-moves-explain-tweet-20325782

[splott parker]

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@ 20k it works out at £80k / game or £14.60 per second

At 20k a year, wouldn’t 80k equate to four games in four years? Or am I missing something?