Slimming World

[blue matt]

Re: Slimming World

Well done on the initial loss - taht is huge. I'm not a fan of slimming world, I'm not sure how many people do it just once. Any diet that comes with a payment makes me suspicious.

Its not just a Diet though, its a lifestyle, you have support of others at the meeting, you can phone The group leader at any time for support ( they want you to stay as its another 5'er for them ) most will yo-yo a little, but thats the way it is, they are at the club for a reason, they were fat / fatter than they wanted to be and will likely like too much food / unhealthily food and that will always be around

[Optimistic Nick]

Re: Slimming World

Its not just a Diet though, its a lifestyle, you have support of others at the meeting, you can phone The group leader at any time for support ( they want you to stay as its another 5'er for them ) most will yo-yo a little, but thats the way it is, they are at the club for a reason, they were fat / fatter than they wanted to be and will likely like too much food / unhealthily food and that will always be around

If it works for you, then great. There isn't a perfect diet that works for everyone and different things work for different people. But in my experience the people who do these club/subscription based diets all seem to accept that it's something you do for a bit; go back to normal; do it again etc. And I dont like that as a plan, especially where people are paying for it. And are you sure it's a lifestyle thing? Don't most stop when they reach their goal weight or whatever? And then go back to their "normal", which is the problem.

[blue matt]

Re: Slimming World

If it works for you, then great. There isn't a perfect diet that works for everyone and different things work for different people. But in my experience the people who do these club/subscription based diets all seem to accept that it's something you do for a bit; go back to normal; do it again etc. And I dont like that as a plan, especially where people are paying for it. And are you sure it's a lifestyle thing? Don't most stop when they reach their goal weight or whatever? And then go back to their "normal", which is the problem.

Oh I dont do it myself, a few of my wife's friends do it

from what I know, the successful ones dont just stop, in fact I think if you are within a few lb ( might be 3 either side from memory and that might be slimming world ? ? ? ) of your target you dont pay for the sessions ( which encourages the people who have hit target weight to continue to attend )

[Dorcus]

Re: Slimming World

A friend of mine has been doing Slimming World for nearly 7 years and is bigger now than when she started. The concept doesn't seem at all scientific to me. It's universally known that to lose weight you need to intake less calories than you expend and as good as exercise is realistically you need to reduce your calorie intake over a period of time to lose weight.

Slimming World have this idea of not referring to calories at all but use some kind of points system and allow a certain amount of what they call "syns". The problem is for example my friend has absolutely no idea what her calorie intake is from day to day and uses her "syns" to justify eating cakes, bread and Knickerbocker Glories!!! Her response to everything is ...'its free on Slimming World"

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Slimming World

There're some really inspirational stories in this thread, just read the whole thing.

Just thought it's worth a mention that the discussions re. safe calorific intakes and the NHS are very rigid and only deal with very general numbers well within bell curves. Metabolism, genetics (hereditary factors and diseases that are triggered by obesity or family histories of metabolic anomalies) and gender will all play an important role but a good way to illustrate this is with recent studies that look at fasting diets (FDs) and the production of ketones which can help with autoimmune diseases by being more efficient energy sources for the brain. These can slow the progression of diseases like Multiple Sclerosis and there are studies for Parkinsons and Dementia.

So, by following a fasting diet, incurable diseases like MS can, in some cases, be slowed down and prevent further brain lesions (or reduce the numbers of new lesions forming) and further neurological damage.

FDs are really hard to follow but it's possible to re-wire the brain and metabolism to adjust to much lower levels of food calories than people think. In fact, we still drastically overeat (especially sugars) in the west even when we're following the guidelines. Nearly half of the world lives on less than a $5.50/day and eat one meal a day.

I stress I'm not being preachy as I really struggle. Prior to lock-down things were finally heading in the right direction and I was feeling great having lost about 19kg but lockdown hit me really hard for lots of reasons and I'm back to where I started.

Fasting is essential to me for personal reasons and all there is left to try and slow down the rapid disease progression of progressive MS.

Sugar is like crack in western diets though. Evil stuff. It's everywhere.