Second protest march in Cardiff

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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It’s a demonstration for demonstrations sake.
Police horses getting stoned now. Truly pathetic. Sludge has done more back tracking on this thread, than Roger Johnson against Man City.

thats your opinion

You have told us you are mixed race and you dont live in Butetown and have never experienced racism or police racism in Cardiff. Utter bollocks to say it doesn't exist though .

You dont have to be black to be concerned about possible deaths of black people involved with the police

We could of course all ignore it 🙄

I hope the lad died from natural causes but there seems genuine concern from politicians to all parts of society

Apart from the usual people

[William Treseder]

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Well thats exactly what I'm saying

Are you unable to read ?

Be honest. Your juices were starting to flow when you posted your 1st thread title, then you realised your error, and made a body swerve Gerald Davies would have been proud of 😀

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Be honest. Your juices were starting to flow when you posted your 1st thread title, then you realised your error, and made a body swerve Gerald Davies would have been proud of 😀

No what happened was it was reported on a newsline as a death in police custody then the storsy was changed so I said my headline was an error .

Now the police horses are getting stoned

I think as you say you are a mixed race man and think these protestors are very naughty you should go down to Butetown and tell them off

[William Treseder]

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No what happened was it was reported on a newsline as a death in police custody then the storsy was changed so I said my headline was an error .

Now the police horses are getting stoned

I think as you say you are a mixed race man and think these protestors are very naughty you should go down to Butetown and tell them off

You’re being silly now. What has me being of mixed race got to do with anything?
Do you think that throwing missiles at police on horse back is ok?

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You’re being silly now. What has me being of mixed race got to do with anything?
Do you think that throwing missiles at police on horse back is ok?

Well you brought it up last summer during the BLM protests and have been a continual critic of protesting ever since as if because you have not experienced racism either by the police or from your mates , it doesn't exist in Cardiff. Those were your words, last summer .

I haven't seen any footage of stones being thrown at police horses and if they have then the police and the horses they employ for public order incidents are trained to deal with it

In the summer u said that racism was not a problem in Cardiff but that isn't the case and you do not have to tell people you are mixed race to exclude white people from the debate

Is this a case of police racism ? I am sure anyone with a brain hopes it isn't but its right that its being looked into and if you think the people who are protesting are wrong then go and tell them . I am not going to criticise the family and friends of a young man who they think was badly treated by the police and chose to do so by protesting . If they are found to be guilty of public order offences then I am sure the police will arrest them .

[William Treseder]

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Well you brought it up last summer during the BLM protests and have been a continual critic of protesting ever since as if because you have not experienced racism either by the police or from your mates , it doesn't exist in Cardiff. Those were your words, last summer .

I haven't seen any footage of stones being thrown at police horses and if they have then the police and the horses they employ for public order incidents are trained to deal with it

In the summer u said that racism was not a problem in Cardiff but that isn't the case and you do not have to tell people you are mixed race to exclude white people from the debate

Is this a case of police racism ? I am sure anyone with a brain hopes it isn't but its right that its being looked into and if you think the people who are protesting are wrong then go and tell them . I am not going to criticise the family and friends of a young man who they think was badly treated by the police and chose to do so by protesting . If they are found to be guilty of public order offences then I am sure the police will arrest them .

Although you are a Bluebird, how long have you spent living in Cardiff? You seem to know quite a lot about the place for someone who’s an outsider.
I’ve lived in Cardiff for 57 yrs. would you like me to lie, and say i had witnessed lots of racism in the capital?
There are obviously racists in Cardiff, but it’s never shown it’s face as much as in many other parts if the UK.
You started this thread (although you’ll never admit it), because you saw it as a chance to be offended on behalf of others, and stick the boot into the fuzz, which you’ve got plenty of form for.

[Toadstool]

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Well you brought it up last summer during the BLM protests and have been a continual critic of protesting ever since as if because you have not experienced racism either by the police or from your mates , it doesn't exist in Cardiff. Those were your words, last summer .

I haven't seen any footage of stones being thrown at police horses and if they have then the police and the horses they employ for public order incidents are trained to deal with it

In the summer u said that racism was not a problem in Cardiff but that isn't the case and you do not have to tell people you are mixed race to exclude white people from the debate

Is this a case of police racism ? I am sure anyone with a brain hopes it isn't but its right that its being looked into and if you think the people who are protesting are wrong then go and tell them . I am not going to criticise the family and friends of a young man who they think was badly treated by the police and chose to do so by protesting . If they are found to be guilty of public order offences then I am sure the police will arrest them .

Just because the horses are trained for it - does not make it ok - we saw what happened to a police horse rider in London in the summer - do you condone that?

And you think it's ok to protest, incite hundreds of people to meet up in the current environment ( against advise and possibly law ) on the basis that he may have been injured by the police without any evidence?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Although you are a Bluebird, how long have you spent living in Cardiff? You seem to know quite a lot about the place for someone who’s an outsider.
I’ve lived in Cardiff for 57 yrs. would you like me to lie, and say i had witnessed lots of racism in the capital?
There are obviously racists in Cardiff, but it’s never shown it’s face as much as in many other parts if the UK.
You started this thread (although you’ll never admit it), because you saw it as a chance to be offended on behalf of others, and stick the boot into the fuzz, which you’ve got plenty of form for.

How do you know that racism has not shown itself in Cardiff as much as it has in other parts of the UK?

You might not have witnessed racism but there you go again saying that because you have not witnessed it , its not as bad as other places

What figures have you got to back that up ?

The language of suggesting I am starting a thread because I like being offended on behalf of others is usually the remit of those who call white , Liberal people snowflakes or virtue signallers . People of the opposite political spectrum than me .

Are you at every racially motivated incident in Cardiff? Do you think that like Liverpool as a seaport with a long established cosmopolitan community that Cardiff doesn't have racism in its police , in its institutions , in its daily life ?

You dont have to be black , mixed race or be a resident of Cardiff to know that it does

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Just because the horses are trained for it - does not make it ok - we saw what happened to a police horse rider in London in the summer - do you condone that?

And you think it's ok to protest, incite hundreds of people to meet up in the current environment ( against advise and possibly law ) on the basis that he may have been injured by the police without any evidence?

well I am still waiting for footage of bricks being thrown at police horses

It used to happen at City matches and I have seen dogs kicked

Of course its not OK but when tensions are running high life changes

If the protestors are breaking any laws then like anyone else I am sure the police will arrest them

The last bit I read about the protest was the organisers handing out hand sanitising gel

Condoning things sometimes doesn't come into it when we are talking about the death of someone . Now let's hope this bloke died of natural causes but if I was his uncle or cousin or friend I think I would probably be protesting . Its easy to tell others what to do when we look from afar . In the summer loads of people were breaking the covid rules but little was done .

[Hungry Blue]

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well I am still waiting for footage of bricks being thrown at police horses

It used to happen at City matches and I have seen dogs kicked

Of course its not OK but when tensions are running high life changes

If the protestors are breaking any laws then like anyone else I am sure the police will arrest them

The last bit I read about the protest was the organisers handing out hand sanitising gel

Condoning things sometimes doesn't come into it when we are talking about the death of someone . Now let's hope this bloke died of natural causes but if I was his uncle or cousin or friend I think I would probably be protesting . Its easy to tell others what to do when we look from afar . In the summer loads of people were breaking the covid rules but little was done .

Fireworks and smoke bombs were being thrown according to this

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/protesters-clash-police-cardiff-after-24-year-old-dies-following-arrest/

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Fireworks and smoke bombs were being thrown according to this

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/protester...lowing-arrest/

Well anyone throwing a firework at someone is an idiot and needs to be dealt with

But that's not bricks

[Hungry Blue]

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Well anyone throwing a firework at someone is an idiot and needs to be dealt with

But that's not bricks

I know, just pointing out that objects have been thrown from the crowd.

Do you expect the police to go in and arrest them?

Let's wait for the outcome of the investigation eh?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I know, just pointing out that objects have been thrown from the crowd.

Do you expect the police to go in and arrest them?

Let's wait for the outcome of the investigation eh?

I was responding to a post that said bricks had been thrown at police horses

It seems that there were no bricks and possibly no horses to throw them at

Yes they are either going to arrest them now or when they have video footage

As for waiting for the results of the investigation its not my son , cousin or friend thats dead , I am sure things will calm down but I think its perfectly understandable that people are demonstrating

Whether its right or wrong is another matter

It was interesting to see an ACAB poster which I assume most people know what is meant by it

I personally think there is good and bad in all elements of society and I know coppers and ex coppers who follow City and I would class as friends . I know they would never assault someone because of their background but if an investigation proves wrongdoing then let's see what happens .

If it proves the police did nothing wrong then those guilty of public order offences during this protest can be dealt with .

[xsnaggle]

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I was responding to a post that said bricks had been thrown at police horses

It seems that there were no bricks and possibly no horses to throw them at

Yes they are either going to arrest them now or when they have video footage

As for waiting for the results of the investigation its not my son , cousin or friend thats dead , I am sure things will calm down but I think its perfectly understandable that people are demonstrating

Whether its right or wrong is another matter

It was interesting to see an ACAB poster which I assume most people know what is meant by it

I personally think there is good and bad in all elements of society and I know coppers and ex coppers who follow City and I would class as friends . I know they would never assault someone because of their background but if an investigation proves wrongdoing then let's see what happens .

If it proves the police did nothing wrong then those guilty of public order offences during this protest can be dealt with .

Why is it understandable that people are demonstrating?

[xsnaggle]

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Sludge tell me something honestly because I see other people on here do it and I have no idea how?
You just stated things that a poster said on here months ago. How did you reference that information, you can't possibly have gone back through all his posts shirley? Others do it about things a poster said months earlier too. How?