Two Malaysian owners

[Bald Barry Bastad]

And we get the sh!t one

[lennybluebird]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

I think that's a bit strong BBB Tan is a business man first he supported us for ten years with two premier league visits on his cv.
If any blame should be apportioned it is the fact he's had no one to be in CCFC 24hrs a day to run it.
I believe the two there now are part timers who's business interests are based up in london.
We should have someone there full-time to oversee the running of the club from top to bottom including the maneger.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

I think that's a bit strong BBB Tan is a business man first he supported us for ten years with two premier league visits on his cv.
If any blame should be apportioned it is the fact he's had no one to be in CCFC 24hrs a day to run it.
I believe the two there now are part timers who's business interests are based up in london.
We should have someone there full-time to oversee the running of the club from top to bottom including the maneger.

I get what you're saying Lenny but when you compare us with the way Leicester City have been run it is chalk and cheese. For all Tans positives his negatives far outweigh and I would say Tan is the major reason we find ourselves where are are today.

[blue lewj]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

I get what you're saying Lenny but when you compare us with the way Leicester City have been run it is chalk and cheese. For all Tans positives his negatives far outweigh and I would say Tan is the major reason we find ourselves where are are today.

Yes.

I have always said all roads lead to Tan and they still do.

For an owner to have a direct say on footballing style is ridiculous outside of changing the manager.

[logic]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

I get what you're saying Lenny but when you compare us with the way Leicester City have been run it is chalk and cheese. For all Tans positives his negatives far outweigh and I would say Tan is the major reason we find ourselves where are are today.

Logic would indicate that when comparing "Two Malaysian owners" that it's essential that both owners are indeed Malaysian, comparing a Malaysian and a Thai undermines the point.

Still, those Asians are all the same, eh?

[delmbox]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

And we get the sh!t one

Says the guy who can't even get a post on a messageboard right

[stan butler]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

Yes.

I have always said all roads lead to Tan and they still do.

For an owner to have a direct say on footballing style is ridiculous outside of changing the manager.

So you believe Dalman on some things then?

[stan butler]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

I get what you're saying Lenny but when you compare us with the way Leicester City have been run it is chalk and cheese. For all Tans positives his negatives far outweigh and I would say Tan is the major reason we find ourselves where are are today.

Tan is to blame for where we are at present but what Leicester have done and achieved is very rare.. Even under better ownership we probably won't get anywhere near to what they have done..

[Des Parrot]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

And we get the sh!t one

I don’t think Tony Fernandes record is better than Tan’s over his tenure so your logic doesn’t hold water. I think they’ve finished below us every season.

[RichardM]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

I get what you're saying Lenny but when you compare us with the way Leicester City have been run it is chalk and cheese. For all Tans positives his negatives far outweigh and I would say Tan is the major reason we find ourselves where are are today.

In the championship with two seasons in the premiership recently. If Tan hadn't taken over where would be? Would CCFC even exist?

[Canton Kev]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

1. Leicester are run by a Thai family.
2. Said family are much much richer than Vincent Tan.
3. Leicester were already a bigger club than us so the chance of success was greater.

[blue lewj]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

So you believe Dalman on some things then?

If he's lying about Vinny he won't be doing that job for very long. So in this instance I think he is telling the truth unless he wants out.

Who knows what is the truth? I certainly don't.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

Oops still stands. We don't compare to Leicester city.. Both teams in a similar position when the owners took over. Similar timescales and don't talk to me about money. Both have enough to do what Leicester did. Unfortunately we ended up with the fruitcake.

[Canton Kev]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

Oops still stands. We don't compare to Leicester city.. Both teams in a similar position when the owners took over. Similar timescales and don't talk to me about money. Both have enough to do what Leicester did. Unfortunately we ended up with the fruitcake.

How on earth can you ignore the money? Of course money is a factor in the pursuit of success. Since the season both clubs got new owners Leicester are the 9th highest spending team in the English leagues (£556m), Cardiff are 29th (£153m). They’ve also just spent £100m+ on new training facilities.

If we have enough money to do what Leicester can do, how come so few of the 28 other teams that have spent more not replicated it? Fulham, Norwich, Watford, Brighton and Palace have all spent about double than what we have. Double what we’ve spent and still pretty much Premier League relegation fodder.

Look at the teams with a similar spending to us;
QPR, 3 PL seasons and 0 cup finals.
Middlesbrough, 1 PL season and 0 cup finals.
Hull, 3 PL seasons and 1 cup final but relegated to League 1 as well.
Cardiff, 2 PL seasons and 1 cup final.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

Re: Two Malaysian owners

How on earth can you ignore the money? Of course money is a factor in the pursuit of success. Since the season both clubs got new owners Leicester are the 9th highest spending team in the English leagues (£556m), Cardiff are 29th (£153m). They’ve also just spent £100m+ on new training facilities.

If we have enough money to do what Leicester can do, how come so few of the 28 other teams that have spent more not replicated it? Fulham, Norwich, Watford, Brighton and Palace have all spent about double than what we have. Double what we’ve spent and still pretty much Premier League relegation fodder.

Look at the teams with a similar spending to us;
QPR, 3 PL seasons and 0 cup finals.
Middlesbrough, 1 PL season and 0 cup finals.
Hull, 3 PL seasons and 1 cup final but relegated to League 1 as well.
Cardiff, 2 PL seasons and 1 cup final.

Look at the money they spent getting into the premier League. Obviously they have spent more than us since then but the money spent to get where they did was well within Tans budget.