Sala Money Question

[Hilts]

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Is it? What negligence has been shown to be made at the hand of Willie Mckay? (For the record I dislike Willie Mckay with a passion).

Also Henderson wasn't the owner, not that that absolves him from a tort of negligence given the circs but just for clarity - he was the lessee operator (although he'd argue he wasn't even that!)

Yeah the owner didnt want Ibbotson flying her plane.

Its a desparately sad tale and hope the family get some justice.

[Sunnysideup]

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The parcel didn’t arrive

Henderson was liable by employing a pilot whom he knew didn’t have the correct pilots license
He knew he couldn’t fly at night and couldn’t fly commercially

There lies the negligence

This is a total mess

If he leased the plane there’s insurance but if he’s leased the plane and lied about who exactly will be flying then that insurance company will surely void any settlement claim?

The buck stops firmly with Henderson in my eyes

[Rjk]

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The parcel didn’t arrive

Henderson was liable by employing a pilot whom he knew didn’t have the correct pilots license
He knew he couldn’t fly at night and couldn’t fly commercially

There lies the negligence

This is a total mess

If he leased the plane there’s insurance but if he’s leased the plane and lied about who exactly will be flying then that insurance company will surely void any settlement claim?

The buck stops firmly with Henderson in my eyes

Did Sala need to arrive in the stadium to become a Cardiff player though?
if you order something on line it's only yours when you take receipt of it.
it isn't the same with a player though, surely as soon as all parties have signed the contracts then it's done.

[blue lewj]

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Did Sala need to arrive in the stadium to become a Cardiff player though?
if you order something on line it's only yours when you take receipt of it.
it isn't the same with a player though, surely as soon as all parties have signed the contracts then it's done.

He came here signed the necessary, had photos with Choo and the club shirt etc, went back and it was the second time he flew in that the crash happened.

That is how I understand it anyway.

[Hilts]

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I dont see how this case has any bearing on us.

Its just justice for the Sala family.

[blue lewj]

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I dont see how this case has any bearing on us.

Its just justice for the Sala family.

I'm not so sure.

I'm sure the insurance companies and both clubs are watching this very closely.
Any wrongdoing that is not caused by either club will be used further down the line. I am almost sure of it.

[blue lewj]

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Let's go back to the delivery analogy here.

The bloke brings it. You sign for it. He takes it back to his van to get some paperwork and drops it on the way back to your door damaging it.
Would you really have no argument with him or blame him?

[gabbsthenewt]

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I dont see how this case has any bearing on us.

Its just justice for the Sala family.

It certainly has bearing with regard the ~£21m provided for in our accounts in the event that we have to pay up the Sala fees and any related obligations.

[Sunnysideup]

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Sala was lost in transit

Someone is liable 🤔

[gabbsthenewt]

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Let's go back to the delivery analogy here.

The bloke brings it. You sign for it. He takes it back to his van to get some paperwork and drops it on the way back to your door damaging it.
Would you really have no argument with him or blame him?

He wasn't a parcel, Nantes had no obligation to deliver him for his first day of training at his new employer, the crux of that is related to whether or not we should have paid Nantes by now; which is *sort* of a separate matter.

[Sunnysideup]

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I think all parties will be watching closely for the judge’s verdict

[blue lewj]

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He wasn't a parcel, Nantes had no obligation to deliver him for his first day of training at his new employer, the crux of that is related to whether or not we should have paid Nantes by now; which is *sort* of a separate matter.

Surely who organised the transport and ultimately is responsible for all of this is exactly the issue.

If it wasn't then it would be clear if we would have have pay Nantes or not as it would be a case of the paperwork being entirely in order or not.

The fact it isn't a case of simple transfer paperwork is purely because of the crash, who organised it and if there was any wrongdoing.

[gabbsthenewt]

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I think all parties will be watching closely for the judge’s verdict

You don't say :-)

[gabbsthenewt]

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Surely who organised the transport and ultimately is responsible for all of this is exactly the issue.

If it wasn't then it would be clear if we would have have pay Nantes or not as it would be a case of the paperwork being entirely in order or not.

The fact it isn't a case of simple transfer paperwork is purely because of the crash, who organised it and if there was any wrongdoing.

It's not the organiser (customer of the operator - Willie McKay) it's the expert operator ultimately responsible (DH maintains this was DI, Prosecution maintains it's DH).

[lardy]

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I think all parties will be watching closely for the judge’s verdict

Yeah I think they might be!