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    All hot air , if you pardon the use of words

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    Absolute nonsense. It's a money making scheme to get the most of your hard earned. Look at the price of an electric car for example. 30 grand for a corsa !!!!.

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      unless china , russia and india show some real clarity and willpower to join the party yes i agree

      c,mon greta and mini me's stop prancing around the western world get your @rse over these places and strut your stuff

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        Delegates?

        All on a jolly

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        • #5
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          Cop out

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            Originally posted by MOZZER2 View Post
            unless china , russia and india show some real clarity and willpower to join the party yes i agree

            c,mon greta and mini me's stop prancing around the western world get your @rse over these places and strut your stuff
            Why do people always say this when per capita those countries are no where near the worst offenders?

            As well as the fact that China at least has plenty of green policies.

            Per capita China is about as bad an offender as New Zealand and only slightly worse than the U.K.

            https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

            North America, Australia and the gulf states are where the biggest changes are needed. And a lot of that is driven by worldwide consumption.

            I don’t know where this narrative of other countries bad so we should do nothing comes from but it isn’t a helpful or correct one.

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              Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
              Why do people always say this when per capita those countries are no where near the worst offenders?

              As well as the fact that China at least has plenty of green policies.

              Per capita China is about as bad an offender as New Zealand and only slightly worse than the U.K.



              North America, Australia and the gulf states are where the biggest changes are needed. And a lot of that is driven by worldwide consumption.

              I don’t know where this narrative of other countries bad so we should do nothing comes from but it isn’t a helpful or correct one.
              And it's always Greta this, Greta that. I just don't get why grown men get so uncomfortable about a teenage girl telling them ah right I get it now.

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                Originally posted by lardy View Post
                And it's always Greta this, Greta that. I just don't get why grown men get so uncomfortable about a teenage girl telling them ah right I get it now.
                The media has basically done a job on people as usual. As boring as it is predictable.

                Almost as bad as people saying she’s an under cover agent placed by the big corporations

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                  Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                  The media has basically done a job on people as usual. As boring as it is predictable.

                  Almost as bad as people saying she’s an under cover agent placed by the big corporations
                  She’s definitely a puppet on someone’s string so for me she’s not authentic.

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                    Who’s string and for what benefit?

                    Would it make the message less important?

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                      Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                      Why do people always say this when per capita those countries are no where near the worst offenders?

                      As well as the fact that China at least has plenty of green policies.

                      Per capita China is about as bad an offender as New Zealand and only slightly worse than the U.K.



                      North America, Australia and the gulf states are where the biggest changes are needed. And a lot of that is driven by worldwide consumption.

                      I don’t know where this narrative of other countries bad so we should do nothing comes from but it isn’t a helpful or correct one.
                      Its a very fair point to highlight the per capita data, as this is nearly always a much fairer way of analysing and comparing countries performance in different areas.

                      I suppose a couple of differences here are that by definition CO2 emmisions are about total figures, as there is a finite acceptable level etc so the level of pollution matters , not who does it. Secondly (and maybe this is reflected in the data posted) countries like Russia, US, Brazil, Canada etc will also point to the amount of forests they have which offset some of this.

                      I find the obsession with, and lack of accountability of Greta Thunberg a bit weird tbh. She is put forward as a child (Young adult now) who cannot be questioned or scrutinized and the hero worship is a bit strange. There's something borderline religious about it

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                        I think people are welcome to question and scrutinise her but the fact she’s presenting almost irrefutable facts makes that quite difficult. It’s probably why the only opposition are weird conspiracy theories.

                        I can’t say I know much about her other than what I’ve heard on the radio but I haven’t really seen much “religious” support for her. More that she’s fronting a very worthwhile cause that everyone should be getting behind, but once again like Covid it’s becoming needlessly politicised.

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                          Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                          Who’s string and for what benefit?

                          Would it make the message less important?
                          I don’t know who’s behind her, but I would take a guess at big green corporate business…she’s a child that’s being exploited (child abuse) a bit like Judy Garland was back in the day.

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                            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                            I find the obsession with, and lack of accountability of Greta Thunberg a bit weird tbh. She is put forward as a child (Young adult now) who cannot be questioned or scrutinized and the hero worship is a bit strange. There's something borderline religious about it
                            What questioning or scrutinizing would you like to do? Hero worship? In these threads, the first time she is mentioned is always by somebody looking to hang her out to dry. And accountability, what is she supposed to be held accountable for?

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