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  • #91
    Re: COP 26 Summit

    Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Unfortunately - especially for younger people - the low-tax, free market world will soon be a thing of the past. Added to this, ordinary people are be told to pay for policies like 'zero carbon' . Policies that are driven by those to whom it will have no financial impact.
    You can say the same when it comes to paying for the effects of covid, and I'd agree with that too. It'll be us who pay.

    But I think you're suggesting that climate change is manufactured, or at least exaggerated, in order to create the policies. I'd say it's a very real and incredibly serious problem that's not being dealt with properly on a global scale.

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    • #92
      Re: COP 26 Summit

      Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
      Unfortunately - especially for younger people - the low-tax, free market world will soon be a thing of the past. Added to this, ordinary people are be told to pay for policies like 'zero carbon' . Policies that are driven by those to whom it will have no financial impact.
      You're just making stuff up here. Young people want the richest, those who've benefited from insane levels of wealth inequality, those who've bought out our governmenrs to rig tax laws to fix the damage.

      How are ordinary people told to pay for policies like zero carbon?

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      • #93
        Re: COP 26 Summit

        Originally posted by lardy View Post
        You can say the same when it comes to paying for the effects of covid, and I'd agree with that too. It'll be us who pay.

        But I think you're suggesting that climate change is manufactured, or at least exaggerated, in order to create the policies. I'd say it's a very real and incredibly serious problem that's not being dealt with properly on a global scale.
        Climate change is real, though I wonder what difference anything the UK does will have any effect. I don't think Boris thinks it will either - he just likes the glory, media attention, kudos, that goes with it all - plus keep his Missus happy.

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        • #94
          Re: COP 26 Summit

          Originally posted by Doucas View Post
          You're just making stuff up here. Young people want the richest, those who've benefited from insane levels of wealth inequality, those who've bought out our governmenrs to rig tax laws to fix the damage.

          How are ordinary people told to pay for policies like zero carbon?
          Are you serious ? Who do you think is paying for it then.

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          • #95
            Re: COP 26 Summit

            Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
            The last point is valid, but comes up against the same old problem governments have had for the last 100 years ; you can tax the rich as much as you want, but there aren't enough of them to make any difference. You can't tax the 'poor', ie those below the tax threshold, receiving benefits, so the burden ends up on the middle class, which really means anyone else, including probably 95% of us on here.
            That is true because they have managed to brainwash people into thinking that tax = income tax. Obscene inherited generational wealth is barely touched whilst every penny the average person (earning 20k or 200k) earns from employment is scrutinised.

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            • #96
              Re: COP 26 Summit

              Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
              That is true because they have managed to brainwash people into thinking that tax = income tax. Obscene inherited generational wealth is barely touched whilst every penny the average person (earning 20k or 200k) earns from employment is scrutinised.

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              • #97
                Re: COP 26 Summit

                Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                James said yesterday that the MP who took money from fossil fuel companies and voted for anti green policies wasn’t corrupt or being bribery but he wants a kid fighting for a good cause to be scrutinised.
                Dull as phucking dog shiit.

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                • #98
                  Re: COP 26 Summit

                  Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
                  Dull as phucking dog shiit.
                  Excuse me? Of course she should face scrutiny. If everything she advocated kicked in tomorrow millions would lose their jobs. I am very pro greening our economy but it needs to be done whilst taking account of numerous factors. No issue with campaigning but if you put someone up to make political statements, they should be allowed to be criticised. Otherwise they are a religious leader in a theocracy. Nothing wrong with it, but people are allowed to question what she says. That's creepy otherwise.

                  And I have explained why someone who gets paid for something and votes a way may not be corrupt. It happens all the time, and as explained, MPs get paid by trade unions all the time and vote for pro trade union policies. It doesn't mean they are corrupt. Either way, politicians are scrutinized and elected so it's all fine. It's a totally different scenario.

                  Just because you want someone to be corrupt doesn't make it so. If you know otherwise about this MP you should report it to the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner. I suspect you won't be doing that.

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                  • #99
                    Re: COP 26 Summit

                    Who the hell is Greta Thunberg anyway?

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                    • Re: COP 26 Summit

                      Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                      Are you serious ? Who do you think is paying for it then.
                      Nobody is really paying for it at the moment as we are doing **** all.

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                      • Re: COP 26 Summit

                        Originally posted by stan butler View Post
                        Who the hell is Greta Thunberg anyway?
                        Croesys next girlfriend I think.

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                        • Re: COP 26 Summit

                          Originally posted by stan butler View Post
                          Who the hell is Greta Thunberg anyway?
                          here we go stan



                          blau, blau ,blau ...

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                          • Re: COP 26 Summit

                            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                            Excuse me? Of course she should face scrutiny. If everything she advocated kicked in tomorrow millions would lose their jobs. I am very pro greening our economy but it needs to be done whilst taking account of numerous factors. No issue with campaigning but if you put someone up to make political statements, they should be allowed to be criticised. Otherwise they are a religious leader in a theocracy. Nothing wrong with it, but people are allowed to question what she says. That's creepy otherwise.
                            I don't think anybody in this thread or beyond is actually questioning what she says though. Their current plan seems to be primarily to make insinuations about her motives without a shred of evidence and then occasionally go all 'bleeding heart' and pretend to care about her mental wellbeing (intertwined with some casual thinly veiled insults).

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                            • Re: COP 26 Summit

                              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                              Just because you want someone to be corrupt doesn't make it so. If you know otherwise about this MP you should report it to the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner. I suspect you won't be doing that.
                              That is a very naive take on the state of British politics and I think you know that. It isn't against the rules to take money from somebody and vote in their favour, it would be impossible to police but that definitely doesn't mean that it isn't corruption.

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