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  • Re: COP 26 Summit

    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
    I think so yeah. I'm sure most agree that everyone who puts themselves in the public discourse should be able to be scrutinized.

    And equally a politician who receives payment for an area of expertise isn't necessarily corrupt.

    These are pretty uncontroversial statements so glad to see you coming round to them.
    I didn't actually say Thunberg shouldn't be scrutinised?

    Nor did I say, the MP was corrupt?

    I asked a question about what you thought should be the priority or perhaps level of scrutiny?

    Carry on though, you're amusing me. I like the way your fitting your narrative to your self delusion. It's a gift really.

    It's scrutinised not scrutinized by the way old bean. Bloody American dictionary.

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    • Re: COP 26 Summit

      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
      The guardian is a pretty poor source nowadays, especially in terms of the opinion pieces. John Crace is a fairly light-hearted columnist I guess but it's actually one of the most click-baity papers there is now IMO.

      The story about wheelchair access is absolutely unbelievable.

      Agree on India. I am sympathetic to the view that it may curtail their development after the west has been allowed to develop but I'd say that is subservient to the wider picture. The future has to be in solar and wind in countries like India.
      That’s why I asked if Johnson’s speech was as bad as reported in that paper - I can definitely believe it was mind.

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      • Re: COP 26 Summit

        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        It's in reference to a thread on the politics post and someone saying someone is corrupt for that scenario. My point is that it isn't necessarily so.

        You may not agree with them, but it doesn't mean they are corrupt, which is s strong word.
        Taking money from a donor that has a certain way they want you to vote Is corrupt. It’s the ****ing definition of it. Where I work we aren’t allowed to accept anything over £20 because it classes as corruption.

        So an MP taking a payment of £150k is corruption.

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        • Re: COP 26 Summit

          Originally posted by Jordi Culé View Post
          I didn't actually say Thunberg shouldn't be scrutinised?

          Nor did I say, the MP was corrupt?

          I asked a question about what you thought should be the priority or perhaps level of scrutiny?

          Carry on though, you're amusing me. I like the way your fitting your narrative to your self delusion. It's a gift really.

          It's scrutinised not scrutinized by the way old bean. Bloody American dictionary.
          In which case we agree.

          Although, actually you said "Dull as phucking dog shit" in reply to Croesy.

          This all works better if you read the posts before replying, saving us all time and saving you the effort of filling the board with insults.

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          • Re: COP 26 Summit

            Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
            No I didn't..Croesy did. And maybe he's not being entirely honest.

            You're right though, I shall put the knitting needle down now. 👍
            Again your reading comprehension is very poor.

            I didn’t bring the 2 topics together I was just using it to highlight your hypocrisy.

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            • Re: COP 26 Summit

              It's all too late

              These delegates are just talking from a script

              Unless China and Russis are involved its all cobblers

              We spent years polluting the planet , you can't expect China to do so now the boot is on the other foot

              We in the west moan about China but buy almost everything from them

              It's a joke really , we are all guilty

              Boris Johnson making a speech about climate change is the biggest joke of all

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                Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                That’s why I asked if Johnson’s speech was as bad as reported in that paper - I can definitely believe it was mind.
                The guardian is a pretty editorial-led paper nowadays. The Daily Mail of the left as they say. I take the two as goalposts to aim to fall between.

                You can decide for yourself here:
                Addressing world leaders including Joe Biden, India's Narendra Modi and German chancellor Angela Merkel, Johnson said the world was in roughly the same position as James Bond as he tries to deactivate a doomsday advice in his films.

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                • Re: COP 26 Summit

                  Originally posted by WJ99mobile View Post
                  Fantastic, we're going to spend taxes on green initiatives to hit somewhat grandstanding targets instead of going to where it's desperately needed in our country to offset what the rest of the world is doing.

                  What a few years it is for the younger generation who have also got the luxury of spiralling house prices and a decade of low wages from the 2008 financial crash.

                  Great timing.
                  I agree we should have done something about it earlier so It didn’t come to this.

                  It’s the broken window fallacy. Why can’t we do more than one thing at once?

                  Where else in the world is much worse than us?

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                  • Re: COP 26 Summit

                    Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                    Again your reading comprehension is very poor.

                    I didn’t bring the 2 topics together I was just using it to highlight your hypocrisy.
                    Thats exactly what you did. You are just out and out lying now. Please stop it, it's pointless and odd.

                    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                    "James said yesterday that the MP who took money from fossil fuel companies and voted for anti green policies wasn’t corrupt or being bribery but he wants a kid fighting for a good cause to be scrutinised."

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                    • Re: COP 26 Summit

                      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                      It's all too late

                      These delegates are just talking from a script

                      Unless China and Russis are involved its all cobblers

                      We spent years polluting the planet , you can't expect China to do so now the boot is on the other foot

                      We in the west moan about China but buy almost everything from them

                      It's a joke really , we are all guilty

                      Boris Johnson making a speech about climate change is the biggest joke of all
                      Yeah we moan about China when we’ve shipped all our manufacturing to them so we can say we’ve hit our emission targets while buying stuff back off them.

                      So while we say our emissions have dropped by 45% since 1990 that’s only true when considering territorial emission and ignoring outsourcing things which benefit us and ignoring all travel in and out of the country.

                      People say we aren’t the bit culprits of climate change but per capita we actually are we are just very good at hiding it.

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                      • Re: COP 26 Summit

                        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                        Thats exactly what you did. You are just out and out lying now. Please stop it, it's pointless and odd.

                        Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                        "James said yesterday that the MP who took money from fossil fuel companies and voted for anti green policies wasn’t corrupt or being bribery but he wants a kid fighting for a good cause to be scrutinised."
                        That’s not conflating two topics that’s highlighting how you are a hypocrite. If you can’t see that there’s no hope for you.

                        That quote you’ve posted just backs up exactly what I was saying ffs

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                        • Re: COP 26 Summit

                          Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                          Yeah we moan about China when we’ve shipped all our manufacturing to them so we can say we’ve hit our emission targets while buying stuff back off them.

                          So while we say our emissions have dropped by 45% since 1990 that’s only true when considering territorial emission and ignoring outsourcing things which benefit us and ignoring all travel in and out of the country.

                          People say we aren’t the bit culprits of climate change but per capita we actually are we are just very good at hiding it.
                          White goods , car parts , phones , tablets , TV s , clothes

                          China , far east , India, Bangladesh etc

                          Mutually assured destruction

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                          • Re: COP 26 Summit

                            Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                            I agree we should have done something about it earlier so It didn’t come to this.

                            It’s the broken window fallacy. Why can’t we do more than one thing at once?

                            Where else in the world is much worse than us?
                            Same with the water issue. £69bn has been paid out to shareholders. Absolutely disgraceful

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                            • Re: COP 26 Summit

                              Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                              That’s not conflating two topics that’s highlighting how you are a hypocrite. If you can’t see that there’s no hope for you.

                              That quote you’ve posted just backs up exactly what I was saying ffs
                              No, you pulled together two completely separate threads on two completely different topics and totally misrepresented what I said (which was merely to challenge your statement that a politician is corrupt because you say they are)

                              Then some random on the internet insults me based on your post, then you lie and say you didn't do what you did.

                              Just stop lying! And if you want to lie, kindly leave me out of it!

                              Put your time to better use!

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