COVID - don't get complacent

[Cleve van Leef]

Re: COVID - don't get complacent

We can say the public have become complacent but so have the supermarkets and other large stores. Some pubs have also allowed people in without masks.

Get better soon TIB

[blue matt]

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Good luck TIB

I am fast approaching my 1st anniversary of having it the 1st time, my taste and smell came back a few months ago ( not 100% and very twisted ) still suffer from fatigue a little, tired after a days work ( though that might be my age now )

I think I must have had it for the 2nd time a few weeks ago, We all had a " cold " and did LFT's ( all Neg ) but now my random smells are back ( especially Onion when I haven't been near them ) and a metallic taste all the time and a headache in the evenings ( all exactly the same things after I had it the 1st time and had recovered )

to be honest though, my oldest is at Uni and out partying ( and why shouldn't she ? ? ), she pops home occasionally, youngest is in school and its a free for all
We wear a mask to the shops etc etc but we have come to accept with our " back to normal " life comes the risk of coming into contact with Covid with whatever we do

[the other bob wilson]

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I returned to the UK on Sunday & I’m honestly shocked by what I’ve seen. Called in at Motorway services no one with masks on, stopped off for food maybe 150 people crammed into a Toby carvery no masks on servers or customers . I’ve come home for my brother in law’s funeral, he died of Covid last week and I’m truly shocked at the level of complacency. I work throughout Europe and have been in 7 different countries in the last month and none are as blasé as the UK.

I had Covid in Sept 20 as described above it was horrible & debilitating for around 6 days & effected my smell for around 4 months after. Virtually all of my family have now had Covid despite being double jabbed & I know 3 people who’ve had it twice.

I’ve got tickets for the Wales games but I’ve already decided no socialising before or after.

I agree with the message of this thread. Don’t be complacent.

“Complacent” is an excellent way to describe the UK in other ways as well, but is especially relevant when it comes to Covid (yesterday’s deaths figure of nearly three hundred was the highest since February).

For myself, the last doctor I spoke to about it was virtually convinced I had Covid in June of last year when I lost my sense of smell and taste - the latter quickly came back, but the former has never really come back, it’s at a comes and goes stage now, but disappeared again completely after my first jad back in February, hence that doctors near certainty that it was down to Covid.

Clearly, if I did have Covid, I can still have it again despite being booked in for my third jab three weeks today and it’s a timely warning from TIB in the OP, but I’m afraid it’s likely to largely fall on deaf ears.

Hope TIB starts feeling better soon.

[Hilts]

Re: COVID - don't get complacent

We can say the public have become complacent but so have the supermarkets and other large stores. Some pubs have also allowed people in without masks.

Get better soon TIB

You dont need masks in pubs.

[Cleve van Leef]

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You dont need masks in pubs.

I think it’s optional but should be mandatory on entering.

[Hilts]

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I think it’s optional but should be mandatory on entering.

You dont need them on entering either.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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You dont need them on entering either.

I don't get why it is safe to not wear masks while walking around a pub yet it's unsafe to do so in other buildings like supermarkets etc.

[The Bloop]

Re: COVID - don't get complacent

You dont need them on entering either.

I think it's only healthcare settings and transport that its mandatory. Doesnt mean that people shouldn't wear them though imo.
I went for a meal a couple of weeks ago and put on my mask to enter the pub. Only when I saw that no one else was wearing one did I remember the rules.

Complacent is the right word though. When Boris and co were on the tv every day telling us it's a pandemic, the public were more compliant . Now we see them carrying out their business looking like it's back to normal the public follow suit.
Theres currently 9k people in hospital with covid yet those in charge of the country seem happy to sit back and do nothing.

[ToTaL ITK]

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I've said this before somewhere on here. I guy that i know is nearing the end of his studies to become a doctor. I asked him about masks and he replied...I don't know..There have been studies that show that masks aren't that effective during surgery, those studies being from the 90's until now. Some countries have politiczed masks to get their own gain (USA)

[Heathblue]

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I've said this before somewhere on here. I guy that i know is nearing the end of his studies to become a doctor. I asked him about masks and he replied...I don't know..There have been studies that show that masks aren't that effective during surgery, those studies being from the 90's until now. Some countries have politiczed masks to get their own gain (USA)

Firstly, I wear masks when required to do so, on a bus, in a shop, we no longer wear them in our office at work having been previously requested to do so before it was relaxed, if a client turns up in a mask, I will ask the client if he would feel more comfortable if I wear a mask, I worked for a company for 15 years who specified, designed and manufactured the filter media that goes into N95 and other masks, Masks are in the main just for political purposes with those on the left screaming mask mask, mask, and those on the right basically saying feck it, load of bollox. Because of a previous background in filtration, it was something that I took interest in, and because of the continuing arguments over them at the time I could find no peer reviewed evidence that masks could prevent a virus particle but I don’t think it is clear cut as that, much of the viral load will be emitted in what we called suspended solids and this is where I believe that masks, whilst not being able to filter the micron rating of the virus, forms a barrier that could filter the suspended solids containing the virus particles, just look at Flop 26 with world leaders totally mask less, then going in front of the telly, lined up putting the mask on for optics, I don’t have an objection to masks, and as winter is upon us I think will help in keeping flu and other respiratory illness at bay, filtration media will have moved on significantly which I have no knowledge of, the arguments for and against have become tedious, if I get into a crowded situation, I don’t care if those around are masked or not (example gig) a recent gig I went to, I masked up but not required to, plenty around didn’t but I just enjoyed the gig. Once the snuffling and coughing starts in the office, I will start wearing a mask in the office as I tend to suffer when getting cold and because of this was always ahead of the crowd regarding hand gel, I had antibacterial wash and hand gel on my desk long before it went crazy.

[The Lone Gunman]

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Masks are in the main just for political purposes with those on the left screaming mask mask, mask, and those on the right basically saying feck it, load of bollox.

Utter nonsense.

[Heathblue]

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Utter nonsense.

It's what i think, but whatever, its not that important.

[The Lone Gunman]

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It's what i think, but whatever, its not that important.

It's the polar opposite to my personal experience.

[adz-a32]

Re: COVID - don't get complacent

I've said this before somewhere on here. I guy that i know is nearing the end of his studies to become a doctor. I asked him about masks and he replied...I don't know..There have been studies that show that masks aren't that effective during surgery, those studies being from the 90's until now. Some countries have politiczed masks to get their own gain (USA)

Bullshit.

This evidence review is in favour of the use of masks. https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

This BMJ article shows evidence showing the effectiveness of masks. https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n432

And another article supporting face masks. https://theconversation.com/evidence...y-to-go-167963

If you want to go through the route of quoting doctors, the BMA branch in Wales wanted face masks to stay in healthcare settings. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57770911

And there are many more studies in favour of face masks. Face masks are to help with the pandemic. They are not political.

[adz-a32]

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much of the viral load will be emitted in what we called suspended solids and this is where I believe that masks, whilst not being able to filter the micron rating of the virus, forms a barrier that could filter the suspended solids containing the virus particles

Is this why ventilation helps with the virus? And also why outdoors and possibly UV helps as well?