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    A&E waiting times are longer than ever and more than a fifth of the population is on a waiting list.


    The worst ever performance figures have once again been recorded by hospital emergency departments and the ambulance service in Wales.

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    Almost like an underfunded health service can't keep up with a global pandemic going on.

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      Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
      Almost like an underfunded health service can't keep up with a global pandemic going on.
      Yes, I dont really see the point of the original post.

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      • #4
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        Originally posted by Former Labour leader View Post
        Yes, I dont really see the point of the original post.
        Cos healthcare is important? 🤷

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        • #5
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          Shouldnt be underfunded. Wheres the £350m a week post Brexit going?

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            Originally posted by Hilts View Post
            Shouldnt be underfunded. Wheres the £350m a week post Brexit going?
            Into the back pockets of tory MPs

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
              Cos healthcare is important? 🤷
              It is but having a go at the performance of the Welsh government when it's struggling for cash after many years of cuts from Westminster is daft .

              Especially when Boris is hardly providing the English people with a spanking health service over the border

              The demand on health and social care at the moment in unprecedented especially in South Wales

              It needs more resources from the top which then goes to Wales through Westminster

              The so called health and social care reforms from the Tories are cobblers and all talk yet again 🙄

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              • #8
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                Border security to reduce the number of migrants who could work in the NHS.
                PS...£350 million was a publicity stunt, an accountancy trick to con people.

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                  Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                  It is but having a go at the performance of the Welsh government when it's struggling for cash after many years of cuts from Westminster is daft .

                  Especially when Boris is hardly providing the English people with a spanking health service over the border

                  The demand on health and social care at the moment in unprecedented especially in South Wales

                  It needs more resources from the top which then goes to Wales through Westminster

                  The so called health and social care reforms from the Tories are cobblers and all talk yet again 🙄
                  This ^^^. My friends dad (in his eighties) had to wait 13 hours for an ambulance a couple of weeks ago. That’s after suffering a stroke. Was covered in the news. They praised the ambulance and NHS staff but the system is broken.

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                    Plan A - Massive cull of the expensive vulnerable, disabled and elderly on benefits and pensions - AKA the new 'social care plan'
                    Plan B - Run the NHS into the ground so it fails and can be rescued by private US insurance companies

                    i'd say this winter might be a success

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                      Originally posted by OurManFlint II View Post
                      Plan A - Massive cull of the expensive vulnerable, disabled and elderly on benefits and pensions - AKA the new 'social care plan'
                      Plan B - Run the NHS into the ground so it fails and can be rescued by private US insurance companies

                      i'd say this winter might be a success
                      Definitely the only type of plans this .gov.uk would come up with.

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
                        Definitely the only type of plans this .gov.uk would come up with.
                        UK Gov has nothing to do with how we run the NHS in Wales

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                          Originally posted by lisvaneblue View Post
                          UK Gov has nothing to do with how we run the NHS in Wales
                          True, but the amount of money received by the Welsh Government from Westminster to run the NHS is determined by the Barnett formula, which doesnt take into account anything other than population size. Demographics pay no part in how much block grant awarded is to the devolved nations.

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                            Originally posted by ninian opinian View Post
                            This ^^^. My friends dad (in his eighties) had to wait 13 hours for an ambulance a couple of weeks ago. That’s after suffering a stroke. Was covered in the news. They praised the ambulance and NHS staff but the system is broken.
                            I agree the system is broke and Im not sure simply putting more money into it will change things.

                            The front line workers are great. I spent a few days in hospital earlier this year and have nothing but praise for them. But the organisation around things is just a mess.
                            And its not just in hospitals. Recently I went for a booster jab at the Splott centre. When there they asked if I worked for the NHS. If I had they would have also given me a flu jab, but as I do not I was told Id have to get one elsewhere.
                            I wrote to our Health minister complaint that this was poor use of resources. The reply I got said that the JCVI recommend co-administration where it aids operational expediency. For Wales this means only front line NHS staff and social care staff get co-administered jabs. I responded reminding her that I had a 10 minute appointment slot for my booster and the flu jab could also have been given in that time frame. It would have been a good example of operational expediency. As it is I now have to take another 10 minutes of a healthcare professional time to get my flu jab.

                            On a different note my neighbour is a 'first responder', attending emergencies ahead of an ambulance arriving. He works around the Cardiff area, and of course when he gets a call time is of the essence. Crazily Cardiff council will not allow first responders to use the Bus/ taxi lanes when answering a call. Yet more nonsense from the administrators.

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                            • #15
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                              NHS budgets have gone up a lot in last few years. If performance is getting worse (and it's impossible to tell cos of Covid really) then just ignoring that and shouting for more money doesn't make you a friend of the NHS.

                              There's clearly massive structural issues at play. Ignoring it just tolerates that

                              Just blaming Westminster when we are talking about a service thats been devolved for 20 years is just ridiculous and rather gutless.

                              This is too important for petty party politics. Everyone needs to come together on it. We all want the same thing

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