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  • #16
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    Mad that the whole thing has almost boiled down to that guy is on my side so it’s ok for him to shoot someone.

    Making your mind up just from that video and calling one of the people a dangerous criminal shows you’re already too biased to discuss it.

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    • #17
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      Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
      It doesn’t mean he is completely innocent either though. You’re basing your whole opinion off that video without knowing what started everyone hitting him.

      Seems you’ve made your mind up without wanting to see the full set of evidence. I seriously cannot believe you’re calling that guy a “dangerous criminal” based on that.

      Wandering into a city win a gun looking for a fight then winding someone up into attacking you does not mean you should be able to shoot them without repercussion. That’s what sets the precedent. Get someone to attack and say you shot them in self defence because you feared for your safety. Dangerous, stupid and again something politicised that shouldn’t be.
      I am not sure why you keep emphasising 'dangerous criminal' I have not used those words in my posts, maybe you are quoting someone else?

      The thing is that like it or not, he is allowed to wander into a city with a gun and open carry, because the law allows him too.

      and in turn the jury was correct to accept his argument fo self defence because it clearly was.

      I agree it is a bad precedent but you can not send the kid to prison when he acted within the law. You have to instead change the law

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by life on mars View Post
        And potentially kill him?

        Surely that's condoning a different form of intententional and senseless violence ?
        did i say kill mongo?


        all parties could have walked away but what would you prefer to arm yourself with? a gun...or a skateboard.

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        • #19
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          Sorry “mentally ill criminal”. How do you get to that from that video?

          Even within the law calling that self defence is bollocks. Unless he was just walking down the street with a gun and they started attacking him with no provocation , which you could never say from that video.

          Yet you’re calling one getting shot a mentally ill criminal.

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          • #20
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            Originally posted by chris lee View Post
            I am not sure why you keep emphasising 'dangerous criminal' I have not used those words in my posts, maybe you are quoting someone else?

            The thing is that like it or not, he is allowed to wander into a city with a gun and open carry, because the law allows him too.

            and in turn the jury was correct to accept his argument fo self defence because it clearly was.

            I agree it is a bad precedent but you can not send the kid to prison when he acted within the law. You have to instead change the law
            The verdict does indeed mean that he is completely innocent in the eyes of the law. Rittenhouse was presumed innocent from the moment charges were filed against him. The prosecution failed to overturn that presumption, therefore his innocence stands.

            Of course, people are quite free to draw different conclusions in their private capacity.

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by jimmyscoular View Post
              The verdict does indeed mean that he is completely innocent in the eyes of the law. Rittenhouse was presumed innocent from the moment charges were filed against him. The prosecution failed to overturn that presumption, therefore his innocence stands.

              Of course, people are quite free to draw different conclusions in their private capacity.
              It’s why my worse fear is being put in front of a jury. Almost a complete luck of the draw who you get.

              America seems even more mad because of how politicised it is.

              The MSNBC guy getting banned from the court due to following the jury is ****ing nuts too. How can a professional in the media do something like that.

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              • #22
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                Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                Sorry “mentally ill criminal”. How do you get to that from that video?

                Even within the law calling that self defence is bollocks. Unless he was just walking down the street with a gun and they started attacking him with no provocation , which you could never say from that video.

                Yet you’re calling one getting shot a mentally ill criminal.
                How was Preston?

                Apperantly, Joseph Rosenbaum was a convicted pedophile and had just been released from a mental hospital but hadn't been taking his meds.

                This isn't me passing any judgement on the case just clarifying that one of the victims was indeed a mentally ill criminal.

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
                  Apperantly, Joseph Rosenbaum was a convicted pedophile and had just been released from a mental hospital but hadn't been taking his meds.

                  This isn't me passing any judgement on the case just clarifying that one of the victims was indeed a mentally ill criminal.
                  Fairplay i didn’t know anything about that, is it definitely true?

                  Im not sure it makes getting shot and killed ok but I don’t think I’ll ever agree with that law.

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                  • #24
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                    Originally posted by Croesy Blue View Post
                    Fairplay i didn’t know anything about that, is it definitely true?

                    Im not sure it makes getting shot and killed ok but I don’t think I’ll ever agree with that law.

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by jimmyscoular View Post
                      The verdict does indeed mean that he is completely innocent in the eyes of the law. Rittenhouse was presumed innocent from the moment charges were filed against him. The prosecution failed to overturn that presumption, therefore his innocence stands.

                      Of course, people are quite free to draw different conclusions in their private capacity.
                      The judge and jurors will be looking over their shoulders for a long long time, one of the news teams was caught following the jurors bus leaving the court on the previous night, I'd be surprised if the jurors were not doxed at some point, the pressure on them to convict must have been immense, meanwhile Ghislaine Maxwell starts on the 29th, squeaky bum time for the rich and famous.

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                      • #26
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                        Gives a good background summary and shows how guns blow everything out of proportion.

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                        • #27
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                          Reading that does make it almost make sense why he got off with no charge. I really didn’t know enough about it. Trying to charge him with murder seems to have been the stupidest thing to do.

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                          • #28
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                            Unfortunately I've had way too much time on my hands this week due to self isolating, so have had a fair old look at this case.

                            It's extremely unique. As much as I agree that its ridiculous for armed people to be at protests, the reality is that its common place in the US. Most of the protests had significant numbers of armed proud boys or other white supremacists, black panthers or armed locals 'protecting ' their businesses.

                            Rittenhouse seems to be a very inadequate and pathetic individual who harbours delusions of 'being a hero' . Hence is silly little homemade first aid kit and going to a volatile atmosphere with a firearm.

                            Once there he seems to have been targeted by a deranged, aggressive criminal. Some of the videos of Rosenbaum are unbelievable. Threatening several of the armed idiots, shouting and screaming 'shoot me n**ga, shoot me n**ga in peoples faces. In fact in one of the videos several female protesters are heard telling him to calm down or he'll 'get us all shot' .
                            What kicked off Rosenbaum going for Rittenhouse was the fact that Rittenhouse extinguished a flaming skip hat Rosenbaum was trying to push into a building. That resulted in Rosenbaum chasing him, cornering him and trying to attack him.

                            More sympathy for the next 2 guys in, as they may well have thought they were dealing with an active shooter.

                            What really angers me is the way that both right and left have politicised it. For people on the left to say it's murder is beyond ridiculous, it was clear self defence.
                            For the right to be proclaiming him a hero is beyond vile. There are senators falling over themselves to give him an internship.

                            Rittenhouse is a sh*thouse little child with delusions of grandeur. He came unstuck big time against a mentally ill violent child molester. The fact the 2 of them live in a country with ridiculous gun laws sent the situation nuclear

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
                              Unfortunately I've had way too much time on my hands this week due to self isolating, so have had a fair old look at this case.

                              It's extremely unique. As much as I agree that its ridiculous for armed people to be at protests, the reality is that its common place in the US. Most of the protests had significant numbers of armed proud boys or other white supremacists, black panthers or armed locals 'protecting ' their businesses.

                              Rittenhouse seems to be a very inadequate and pathetic individual who harbours delusions of 'being a hero' . Hence is silly little homemade first aid kit and going to a volatile atmosphere with a firearm.

                              Once there he seems to have been targeted by a deranged, aggressive criminal. Some of the videos of Rosenbaum are unbelievable. Threatening several of the armed idiots, shouting and screaming 'shoot me n**ga, shoot me n**ga in peoples faces. In fact in one of the videos several female protesters are heard telling him to calm down or he'll 'get us all shot' .
                              What kicked off Rosenbaum going for Rittenhouse was the fact that Rittenhouse extinguished a flaming skip hat Rosenbaum was trying to push into a building. That resulted in Rosenbaum chasing him, cornering him and trying to attack him.

                              More sympathy for the next 2 guys in, as they may well have thought they were dealing with an active shooter.

                              What really angers me is the way that both right and left have politicised it. For people on the left to say it's murder is beyond ridiculous, it was clear self defence.
                              For the right to be proclaiming him a hero is beyond vile. There are senators falling over themselves to give him an internship.

                              Rittenhouse is a sh*thouse little child with delusions of grandeur. He came unstuck big time against a mentally ill violent child molester. The fact the 2 of them live in a country with ridiculous gun laws sent the situation nuclear
                              Good post.

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by Wash DC Blue View Post
                                Good post.
                                Agreed a good summary fair play.

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