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  • #16
    Re: Keep the Faith

    Originally posted by 198bore View Post
    The crowd began to get restless when Flint and McGuiness were passing the ball to each other. We're so conditioned to long ball football there seems to be no patience whatsoever. We've been crying out for more possession, well here's what it looks like! next step is to move the ball quicker and pick passes through the lines. The midfield that started last night isn't capable of that, though.
    They'll need more time with the manager to work on movement, but baby steps eh.


    I don't get it, people are happy to lump the ball forward and lose it, which isn't great to watch.
    Yet when we keep the ball, OK it wasn't great to watch but we weren't constantly giving the ball to the opposition, so we had possession of the ball and weren't in any danger to concede..fans don't like that? So they are happier to see us lump it forward and lose it than try and hold onto in and use it.

    Baffles the brain.

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    • #17
      Re: Keep the Faith

      Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
      With no purpose. It was pointless.
      Give them time.

      They've only just started passing the ball they aren't going to be moving around like 1986 ajax off the ball.

      It's better than lumping it forward 60 yards and conceding possession and being on the defensive again and again.

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      • #18
        Re: Keep the Faith

        Originally posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
        Morison got it completely wrong last night with Pack, Vaulks & Bacuna. The worrying factor is him defending Bacuna. I understand the need for patience when a team is developing a style or way of playing but I can't subscribe to being content watching professional footballers not being able to do their basic jobs. I went down last night. I paid to watch. I feel scammed.
        Understand the need for patience. Then say you feel scammed at the end.

        I am logging out for the day. Jesus wept.

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        • #19
          Re: Keep the Faith

          I was there last night and yes there was frustration at the end .

          I get we have to wait for a transition and it is not instant ,however what struck me was the lack of movement up front , no position interchanging , no getting to near post quicker , no looking to win a second ball from headed down from Moore , and our strikes / headers on goal were straight and weak to the keeper hands.

          With no wrong movement and position in space it slows down the midfielders /defenders options , so they pause and pass back or sideways allowing the opposition to get into better positions , we then miss the opportunity to have the defenders on the back foot attacking at pace which I think is down the due to the lack of intelligent movement and variation of position in the oppositions half and penalty box.

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          • #20
            Re: Keep the Faith

            I'm feeling positive overall. I rate Pack. He's slow but he can pass. I do not rate Vaulks at all. Sloppy defending for the goal. But I'm prepared to sacrifice "hard to beat" for "hard to stop". We're not getting relegated. I'm happy to wait.

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            • #21
              Re: Keep the Faith

              Originally posted by dembethewarrior View Post
              Understand the need for patience. Then say you feel scammed at the end.

              I am logging out for the day. Jesus wept.
              You need to read my comment again and then maybe it'll make more sense. No need to be a drama queen.

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              • #22
                Re: Keep the Faith

                Sounds like we're talking about a junior school football team not a professional football team

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                • #23
                  Re: Keep the Faith

                  We're slow in thought and across the grass but for me with the ball it all comes down to movement. We have next to none, first half was painful to see people standing around.

                  If players made runs, dropped into the space, then even our defenders could potentially find them with simple passes.

                  You then move the opposition defence around.

                  Slowly passing it between the cbs and then into the wing back (that has to drop back close to the touchline) who can only go back to the cb isn't really any more technical than what we had before.

                  2nd half was an improvement.

                  I don't agree with the boos either but I think it's over the whole season people are tired at seeing us lose at home so easily.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Keep the Faith

                    One thing that struck me last night was that a lot of our players didn't want seem to want the ball - whether it's subconsciously or not I don't know. But when we were in possession there was very little movement or space being found.

                    One exception was Isaak Davies who is probably playing without the baggage that the rest of the team have. The players need to be brave and we need to help out by not jumping on their back so easily.It's often not the layer in possession at fault but the lack of option they have in front of them. All jeering of booing does is increase the likelihood of a rash pass or a hoof upfield.

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                    • #25
                      Re: Keep the Faith

                      Originally posted by PhyllisStant View Post
                      One thing that struck me last night was that a lot of our players didn't want seem to want the ball - whether it's subconsciously or not I don't know. But when we were in possession there was very little movement or space being found.

                      One exception was Isaak Davies who is probably playing without the baggage that the rest of the team have. The players need to be brave and we need to help out by not jumping on their back so easily.It's often not the layer in possession at fault but the lack of option they have in front of them. All jeering of booing does is increase the likelihood of a rash pass or a hoof upfield.
                      It was very obvious that most of our players have little confidence in their ability to keep the ball when put under any pressure by the opposition.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Keep the Faith

                        Perhaps if had started with Ralls and Collins it may have provided a better platform for the youngsters to come on later in the game , interestingly I thought Collins kept and held the ball better than Moore .

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                        • #27
                          Re: Keep the Faith

                          The reality is that we as fans are going to have go through a bit of pain in order to rid ourselves of the utter dross we have witnessed on occasions over the past 4 or 5 years. We may go down and we may struggle for a while, but that's what happens when the club endorses short term fixes and only plan for one season at a time. It was obvious that our style of football would bite us on the arse at some point.

                          Morison may not be the man to take us forward, who knows. But he deserves some credit for attempting to right the wrongs of the last three managers and the pair of idiots at board level. He's got one hell of a job on. In my opinion he's being brave at a time where we have the weakest squad in 10 years, maybe longer. If he fails in his quest to keep us up then it wont be his fault in my opinion. It'll be down to the shitty club, owner and minions who have no clue how to implement a plan or a philosophy at the club.

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                          • #28
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                            I thought the booing was frustration at the poor ref and officials for numerous cock ups throughout the match. Add in 2 disallowed goals and hitting the post in the last minute I think some frustration was expected. Shortly after the whistle the players had a fairly positive reception for a painful loss. Clapped off the pitch and chants of Bluebirds.

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                            • #29
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                              I wonder if we'll do better away than at home over the next couple of months. A bit less pressure and fans a more patient?

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                              • #30
                                Re: Keep the Faith

                                Originally posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
                                I wonder if we'll do better away than at home over the next couple of months. A bit less pressure and fans a more patient?
                                The away fans seem to want to support the team and help them do well, the vibe at home is that the fans DEMAND the team do what they want BRILLIANTLY and it NEEDS to happen NOW or ELSE.

                                Not a helpful atmosphere for a team low on confidence that's trying to change the way it plays

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