Phil Spector Brown Bread

[Gofer Blue]

Re: Phil Spector Brown Bread

A classic nurture vs nature situation here with Spector I think. Spookily like the bobo doll experiment where a little boy picks up a toy gun to attack the doll even though a gun was not used in the initial demo.

https://www.simplypsychology.org/bobo-doll.html

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Re: Phil Spector Brown Bread

He also witnessed his father blow his brains out when he was a young kid. You don’t forgive the deed but you try to forgive the person.

The phrase RIP is pretty meaningless really - as is the concept of forgiveness when you weren't affected by a deed yourself.
Fanciful fluff.

[Whisperer]

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The phrase RIP is pretty meaningless really - as is the concept of forgiveness when you weren't affected by a deed yourself.
Fanciful fluff.

For sure but I have my own experience of forgiveness which I have practiced over the years and I get great peace of mind from it rather than holding on to bitterness and resentment.

[waynekerr55]

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https://i.postimg.cc/vBVjxkwj/Screenshot-20210117-185156-Twitter.jpg

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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For sure but I have my own experience of forgiveness which I have practiced over the years and I get great peace of mind from it rather than holding on to bitterness and resentment.

That's fine but misses my point, old fruit.

[Rjk]

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a Christmas gift to you is still my go-to Christmas album however

[Whisperer]

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That's fine but misses my point, old fruit.

And what point is that? old nut

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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And what point is that? old nut

About the concept of forgiveness being meaningless if we weren't the wronged party (or perhaps close to the wronged party) in the first place.

[Lost Johnny]

Re: Phil Spector Brown Bread

Whatever his faults, and he had many, he was an eccentric genius who revolutionised pop music in the 1960s with his 'wall of sound' production techniques. His work on "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' by The Righteous Brothers and Ike and Tina Turner's "River Deep Mountain High" immediately spring to mind.

[Whisperer]

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About the concept of forgiveness being meaningless if we weren't the wronged party (or perhaps close to the wronged party) in the first place.

I see where your coming from, but if that’s the attitude then I suppose it’s pointless wishing Sol a speedy recovery cause most of us don’t know him personally or ever met him...for me it’s not meaningless in fact the complete opposite.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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I see where your coming from, but if that’s the attitude then I suppose it’s pointless wishing Sol a speedy recovery cause most of us don’t know him personally or ever met him...for me it’s not meaningless in fact the complete opposite.

What has wishing someone a speedy recovery from illness have to do with forgiveness???? Bizarre analogy.

[Whisperer]

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What has wishing someone a speedy recovery from illness have to do with forgiveness???? Bizarre analogy.

Obviously to deep for your shallow existence me old nut.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Obviously to deep for your shallow existence me old nut.

You mean 'too', old fruit.

[Gofer Blue]

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About the concept of forgiveness being meaningless if we weren't the wronged party (or perhaps close to the wronged party) in the first place.

The OP has stated "For sure but I have my own experience of forgiveness which I have practiced over the years"

This means he was the wronged party surely and hence your comment is meaningless?

[Harry Paget Flashman]

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He also had a glass lidded coffin installed in his house and told Ronnie Spector that if she ever tried to leave him he'd kill her and keep her on display in it.

Was he one of the 7 Dwarfs?