US boycotts Beijing winter games 2022

[life on mars]

Re: US boycotts Beijing winter games 2022

This will mean nothing until teams and athletes pull out it would hit the pockets hard and force the likes of China, Russia, Qatar to become inclusive, diverse and truly democratic, sadly these countries know we can be bought off so easily with corporate sponsorship licking thier lies, we offer pathetic gestures in the name of so called outrage .

[lardy]

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You're kind of proving my point by comparing the democratically elected former president to the Chinese communist party. The two arent remotely comparable, and thats kinda the point.

Many people get overly exercised on smaller issues, and ignore far greater crimes.

You can oppose both of course, but I see few examples of that.

They were your examples, ya goon.

And the idea that the majority of people who oppose Trump are supporting China's treatment of the Uyghurs is absolutely mad.

Apart from that, very nice post, 8/10.

[WJ99mobile]

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Man on messageboard saves world by moaning on messageboard.

Look what's happened recently with people moaning

Even locally, it's kept 2 Camarthenshire schools open.

If the moaning become the majority change happens. It's the apathy that often allows many to get away with stuff

[lardy]

Re: US boycotts Beijing winter games 2022

This will mean nothing until teams and athletes pull out it would hit the pockets hard and force the likes of China, Russia, Qatar to become inclusive, diverse and truly democratic, sadly these countries know we can be bought off so easily with corporate sponsorship licking thier lies, we offer pathetic gestures in the name of so called outrage .

I think the US has tried to force democracy on countries, with variable success.

[dembethewarrior]

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Look what's happened recently with people moaning

Even locally, it's kept 2 Camarthenshire schools open.

If the moaning become the majority change happens. It's the apathy that often allows many to get away with stuff

Saves the world.

[JamesWales]

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They were your examples, ya goon.

And the idea that the majority of people who oppose Trump are supporting China's treatment of the Uyghurs is absolutely mad.

Apart from that, very nice post, 8/10.

Nah, ya plonker, I'm saying they aren't comparable. And then you implied they were (by saying...well, I've seen people praise Trump, but not the Uighur concentration camps!)

That's the point, the differences are absolutely stark yet people barely focus on the unarguably far more evil behaviour. I don't know why. Not trendy I guess. Maybe because we feel we cant make a difference?

I think people really should redirect some of their rage away from "middle class lefty" causes and towards some of the truly authoritarian and regressive stuff going on in the world, much of it is in China and needs a light being shone on it far more. When we focus on luxury issues, we give repressive regimes a free pass.

So in that sense, if the US helps achieve that, even whilst I dont like sport and politics mixing too much, then it's a good thing.

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Nah, ya plonker, I'm saying they aren't comparable. And then you implied they were (by saying...well, I've seen people praise Trump, but not th Uighur concentration camps!)

Thats the point, the differences are absolutely stark.

I think people really should redirect some of their rage away from "middle class lefty" causes and towards some of the truly authoritarian and regressive stuff going on in the world, much of it is in China and needs a light being shone on it far more. When we focus on luxury issues, we give repressive regimes a free pass.

So in that sense, if the US helps achieve that, even whilst I dont like sport and politics mixing too much, then it's a good thing.

I don't disagree with the general point you're making, and totally agree that China gets away with murder whilst people cry foul about other stuff, but I'd be fascinated to know what you consider a "luxury issue"

[goats]

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What do you mean, we're celebrating Qatar? Everyone hates it going there, don't we?

We do, the biggest sign of corruption in FIFA we ever seen…..

[Rjk]

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captain whattaboutary strikes again

[lardy]

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Nah, ya plonker, I'm saying they aren't comparable. And then you implied they were (by saying...well, I've seen people praise Trump, but not the Uighur concentration camps!)

That's the point, the differences are absolutely stark yet people barely focus on the unarguably far more evil behaviour. I don't know why. Not trendy I guess. Maybe because we feel we cant make a difference?

I think people really should redirect some of their rage away from "middle class lefty" causes and towards some of the truly authoritarian and regressive stuff going on in the world, much of it is in China and needs a light being shone on it far more. When we focus on luxury issues, we give repressive regimes a free pass.

So in that sense, if the US helps achieve that, even whilst I dont like sport and politics mixing too much, then it's a good thing.

Please copy and paste the sentence where I compared Trump and the CCP.

I agree that more should be made of what China is doing with the Uyghurs, but the US boycott is nothing to do with it. And the bit about lefties disliking trump is definitely nothing to do with it.

[JamesWales]

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I don't disagree with the general point you're making, and totally agree that China gets away with murder whilst people cry foul about other stuff, but I'd be fascinated to know what you consider a "luxury issue"

Fair question. For me it's things like trying to get speakers you don't like banned, trying to shame advertisers off TV channels you dont watch, writing hysterical things about newspapers you don't read. A disproportionate response to statues, perceived accusations of sexism, racism, fascism etc that rarely hold up to scrutiny, especially when said person actively ignores those things when they really happen.

I do balance that against the fact that what happens in ones own country is of course more important and also that we do and should hold democracies to a greater level of scrutiny.

But, I just think the balance isn't there, and being lectured by people who care more about stopping Fairy Liquid from advertising on GB news or injustices 200 years ago than literal concerntration camps and mass denial of rights in 2021 does grate somewhat.

I remember growing up, the left honourably objected to the treatment of Tibet, to apartheid South Africa (a little before my time) and unjust wars. That was my experience, and why I was very left-wing in my youth - I used to be a member of the Respect Party. Now it seems they get riled up by speakers at universities and shouting at old statues.

The right rarely protest against anything, so aren't any better, but at least they are less sanctimonious about it all.

[goats]

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Was just reading the USA pulled out of the 1980 Olympics in Russia due to the hosts invading Afghanistan….I reckon more countries will pull out of this games (athletes) if it goes ahead anyway…..

[life on mars]

Re: US boycotts Beijing winter games 2022

It's a Micky Mouse Olympic event , silly pale skin people sliding around on ice and snow , it's very unfair to warmer climate countries and people's ( no skiing in deserts) just pull out ' let's it go ' as the Frozen song goes

[mrbluejay]

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They will represent their nation, all it means is that the VP or any dignitaries will not attend.

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Re: US boycotts Beijing winter games 2022

UK does the same

https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1468573271629172745?s=20