City support from the Cardiff area's?

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Being from CF5 here's my take on it.
In Cardiff we have a City divided by sport football and rugby.
I'm obviously football and find as soon as you go over Canton bridge into town as a Cardiff City fan there are many places you are not welcome ridiculous in your own city.
Also I think many, not all, Cardiff blues/Rugby fans hate us so won't cross the divide and so it's easier to be a plastic Manu or Liverpool fan.
We've always had a decent support from Ely and some of the older heads I know say when we were really shit Cardiff was the predominant support for the club.

Well my experience , especially away from home in the first time in the old fourth division that for many trips we would have about 250 away fans and 3 coaches , about 150 , would come from Bridgend , Barry and Pontypridd

Two coaches were run by Mike Lambert , originally from Aberdare then Bridgend , Mike Pearce from Barry and the third coach was valleys run by roy and mair daniel from Pontypridd.

And these coaches would all meet at ninian Park and they would be full of fans from outside Cardiff before they got there

For most of the games that was it , about 3 coaches , most of the people on them from outside Cardiff. On our coach we would often have a group of lads from port Talbot and Porthcawl.

I think it's fair to say our away fans then , as now we're very loyal to ccfc and most of them were not from Cardiff

There are loyal fans from Cardiff it's just that as with our crowds, there are not enough of them . Far too many people from this part of the world find excuses not to get behind CCFC . Tony Clemo might not have been everybody's favourite chairman but he said as much many years ago .

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Like alluded to at the start of this thread, those nutters seemed to be our main core of support when I started going, 1987 time. Large gangs from different suburbs ( the docks, Ely, llanrumney, llanishen, Whitchurch ) and lots of trouble as a result. A lot of this agro disappeared in the rave years replacing the huge gang fights that regularly used to take place on the weekend in town at 2am.
I think our fan base has widened around wales since but not so much in the capital itself. Being quite cosmopolitan and having lots of students, English folk and Europeans maybe there’s no natural instinct to go and follow us.

My young life was connected to so much conflict , in the playground, streets, between estates, football , police ,school it was everywhere, we go to the City games in groups looking for a rubble with anyone??

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My young life was connected to so much conflict , in the playground, streets, between estates, football , police ,school it was everywhere, we go to the City games in groups looking for a rubble with anyone??

Rubble... Barney...Rhyming Slang?

[splott parker]

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Rubble... Barney...Rhyming Slang?

Betty never!

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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Is this you looking in the mirror just before leaving the house on a matchday ��

Edit - just remembered that you're in your 60s

I have many problems but I don't wear football shirts as match-going apparel, old fruit

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My young life was connected to so much conflict , in the playground, streets, between estates, football , police ,school it was everywhere, we go to the City games in groups looking for a rubble with anyone??

Didn't anyone cut you any slack? Or were you hard core? It must have taken some grit.

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My young life was connected to so much conflict , in the playground, streets, between estates, football , police ,school it was everywhere, we go to the City games in groups looking for a rubble with anyone??

“Stone me” as Anthony Aloysius would say

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Like alluded to at the start of this thread, those nutters seemed to be our main core of support when I started going, 1987 time. Large gangs from different suburbs ( the docks, Ely, llanrumney, llanishen, Whitchurch ) and lots of trouble as a result. A lot of this agro disappeared in the rave years replacing the huge gang fights that regularly used to take place on the weekend in town at 2am.
I think our fan base has widened around wales since but not so much in the capital itself. Being quite cosmopolitan and having lots of students, English folk and Europeans maybe there’s no natural instinct to go and follow us.

I think it's really interesting and we all have different experiences. Reading the thread and seeing the vid that Tuerto posted, Sludges comments, and my own experience living where I do, there are a few things that have sprung to mind.

For me, following The City has always been about it being Cardiff but maybe that dynamic has/is changing a lot. What am I trying to say? When I go to watch Wales, then that's Welsh football for me. When I go and watch the Cymru Premier, that's Welsh football too. When I go and watch us, it's Cardiff (this is my personal feeling I'm not trying to say it's right or wrong). I had a discussion recently about this (can't remember the thread) and it got a bit confused becasue I raised this issue of us playing in the EFL. I know the history and everything but do people think that this has become more confusing as the years have gone on (not suggesting I want us to be out of the EFL I'm just raising issues of identity here). There are lots of English people I've spoken to or taken to matches over the years who have been put off by anti-English chants or even the 'Welshness' of our club and didn't feel connected.

I'm not trying to stir anything up but I do think we are a confusing club for a lot of football people and wonder if this is a good or bad thing? I think for a lot of support outside of the city it's about a Welsh club, in the city, there's probably a mix (as I said, I never really feel connected as a Welsh club but that's just me). I'm just chucking this stuff out there as part of the discussion not to start any arguments. I find it interesting.

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These Boys are representing, Sludge

Not seen that before….
Not sure what sludge is on about with regard to away games, lots of cardiff boys always there we usually went in the train. Hardly ever in a coach….that was for old people

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lots of cardiff boys always there we usually went in the train. Hardly ever in a coach….that was for old people

Train was were it was at 1st train out of central, always gave you plenty of time to get anywhere for a 3pm KO

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I think it's really interesting and we all have different experiences. Reading the thread and seeing the vid that Tuerto posted, Sludges comments, and my own experience living where I do, there are a few things that have sprung to mind.

For me, following The City has always been about it being Cardiff but maybe that dynamic has/is changing a lot. What am I trying to say? When I go to watch Wales, then that's Welsh football for me. When I go and watch the Cymru Premier, that's Welsh football too. When I go and watch us, it's Cardiff (this is my personal feeling I'm not trying to say it's right or wrong). I had a discussion recently about this (can't remember the thread) and it got a bit confused becasue I raised this issue of us playing in the EFL. I know the history and everything but do people think that this has become more confusing as the years have gone on (not suggesting I want us to be out of the EFL I'm just raising issues of identity here). There are lots of English people I've spoken to or taken to matches over the years who have been put off by anti-English chants or even the 'Welshness' of our club and didn't feel connected.

I'm not trying to stir anything up but I do think we are a confusing club for a lot of football people and wonder if this is a good or bad thing? I think for a lot of support outside of the city it's about a Welsh club, in the city, there's probably a mix (as I said, I never really feel connected as a Welsh club but that's just me). I'm just chucking this stuff out there as part of the discussion not to start any arguments. I find it interesting.

English mates of mine from college days loved coming to watch Cardiff with me up north

They were all fans of the big clubs and actually went to watch them but said watching cardiff was a bizarre experience and they loved it

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Not seen that before….
Not sure what sludge is on about with regard to away games, lots of cardiff boys always there we usually went in the train. Hardly ever in a coach….that was for old people

Not up north in places like Rochdale, Bury , Doncaster

A few might have gone by train but most fans went by coach

Apart from the bigger games our following was only a couple of hundred in the dungeon

Of course we would take loads to Hereford or a big cup game by train but for normal games we would have about 20 or 30 on the train and I know that because I was living up north at the time and travelled by train and would join the escort to get back to the station

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Train was were it was at 1st train out of central, always gave you plenty of time to get anywhere for a 3pm KO

Train was fine for Hereford or Exeter but when we had 250 up at Rotherham to get trounced 3 nil there certainly were not loads on the train

We played Bury on a Saturday in 1989 , May , took mates from college , there were 300 there if we were being kind , coaches , cars and minibuses , 50 on the train ? .....I Dont remember a big escort back to Manchester Victoria Station

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London has 6 EPL clubs. 3 of them are amongst the biggest clubs in the country and the 4th is not too far behind. How many Brentford, QPR, Orient or Wimbledon fans have you met?

I should have been clearer, I meant people from other parts of the UK that have moved to London - which is the majority of people I know in London generally.

But in terms of the London clubs you’ve named, I’ve met an Orient and a QPR fan. No Wimbledon, I worked with someone that was from there but followed Brighton (family). I had family here that followed Brentford but don’t think that counts.