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[the other bob wilson]

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To be fair, I picked Vidmar based on what he did for Rangers, so my selection is a bit hypocritical, because players like Fowler and Hasselbaink didn’t even enter my mind - think Sinclair could have been a good right wing back.

[Bluebirdman Of Alcathays]

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RWB - Just getting in under the 20 year wire: Disco Des! Although I think he was only RWB at Newcastle. Or Jordi Osei-Tutu, although that's based on about 40 minutes of action.

[Rjk]

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hopefully we settle the RWB position once and for all in January when we get Nico Williams on loan for the season, and move Perry Ng into the back 3

[the other bob wilson]

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RWB - Just getting in under the 20 year wire: Disco Des! Although I think he was only RWB at Newcastle. Or Jordi Osei-Tutu, although that's based on about 40 minutes of action.

Osei-Tutu would be a possibility if he could get out on the pitch - has he played at all for Forest (just checked, Wikipedia says he has played twice for them).

[Rjk]

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Osei-Tutu would be a possibility if he could get out on the pitch - has he played at all for Forest (just checked, Wikipedia says he has played twice for them).

did his hamstring after 17 minutes of the second game if the season and had been out until the last 2 matches, which he played.
got a year left at arsenal come the summer.

[City123]

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Don Cowie would probably make a decent wing back

[the other bob wilson]

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did his hamstring after 17 minutes of the second game if the season and had been out until the last 2 matches, which he played.
got a year left at arsenal come the summer.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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To be fair, I picked Vidmar based on what he did for Rangers, so my selection is a bit hypocritical, because players like Fowler and Hasselbaink didn’t even enter my mind - think Sinclair could have been a good right wing back.

If we're going for 'could have been' - what about Noone? Genuine question, why does Giles get into most of these sides? What am I not seeing when you consider the other players we've had over the last 20 who have proven themselves?

[Rjk]

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If we're going for 'could have been' - what about Noone? Genuine question, why does Giles get into most of these sides? What am I not seeing when you consider the other players we've had over the last 20 who have proven themselves?

0.5 assists per 90 minutes so far
40% of all assists in this team this season.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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0.5 assists per 90 minutes so far
40% of all assists in this team this season.

OK, I get that, but there are other players over the last 20 years who surely would be better if slotted into that role? For me, Giles is the best of a bad bunch this season. He'd definitely not be in my all-time starting 11 even at those formations. He's a noob!

[Rjk]

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0.5 assists per 90 minutes so far
40% of all assists in this team this season.

but most of all there aren't too many other good candidates.
a young Joe Ledley is a good call.
Declan John seems like he might have been a better wing back than a full back or winger, bit probably not as effective as Giles has been.
Joe Bennett was good there as well. Probably a decent case for famous diarist Mark Kennedy as well

[Citizen's Nephew]

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but most of all there aren't too many other good candidates.
a young Joe Ledley is a good call.
Declan John seems like he might have been a better wing back than a full back or winger, bit probably not as effective as Giles has been.
Joe Bennett was good there as well. Probably a decent case for famous diarist Mark Kennedy as well

We just cross-posted!

[the other bob wilson]

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If we're going for 'could have been' - what about Noone? Genuine question, why does Giles get into most of these sides? What am I not seeing when you consider the other players we've had over the last 20 who have proven themselves?

We haven’t got a great deal of candidates though have we when it comes to natural wing backs because we barely ever played with them until 2021. I can remember Joe Bennett playing there at Huddersfield a few years back and scoring twice and he also scored the winner at Rotherham in the snow last season, I think he could have had a good career playing there, but he was a full back first and foremost. I can’t think of anyone I’ve seen in the timescale Rjk talked about who could be described as a natural wing back, but Giles seems to be one - he looks more at home there than where McCarthy was using him.

[the other bob wilson]

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but most of all there aren't too many other good candidates.
a young Joe Ledley is a good call.
Declan John seems like he might have been a better wing back than a full back or winger, bit probably not as effective as Giles has been.
Joe Bennett was good there as well. Probably a decent case for famous diarist Mark Kennedy as well

All left sided though, strange how we struggle to find good right backs as well as right wing backs.

[Rjk]

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All left sided though, strange how we struggle to find good right backs as well as right wing backs.

Brayford had a reputation for getting forward well before he came to Cardiff, but not really possible to put him in the side.
it probably isn't a big surprise that weve only played with wingbacks for about. season total out of the last 20, so the main specialist positions we are struggling to fill.
Fabio came to mind as well, but we'll never know if it would have worked