Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

The consistent failure viewpoint is likely not shared by sufficient numbers to bring about change.

That is likely. But then we're living in a country that voted for Brexit.

[Tuerto]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Germany, Finland, Spain, France, Portugal, Netherlands etc are all implementing restrictions that are either the same or stricter than we have in Wales, that's what i've read, if i'm correct and that's without checking on other European countries. Is their an over reaction from these nations and their governments as well. Obviously, most of us here are UK based, but i don't think that we can ignore the fact that other countries are going as hard or harder than Wales.

[Dorcus]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

That is likely. But then we're living in a country that voted for Brexit.

Therein lies the real problem...

[superflyblues]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Germany, Finland, Spain, France, Portugal, Netherlands etc are all implementing restrictions that are either the same or stricter than we have in Wales, that's what i've read, if i'm correct and that's without checking on other European countries. Is their an over reaction from these nations and their governments as well. Obviously, most of us here are UK based, but i don't think that we can ignore the fact that other countries are going as hard or harder than Wales.

Errrrmmmm…. ‘Covid Omicron: European nations reinstate restrictions’ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59747689

[Tuerto]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Erm…. Covid Omicron: European nations reinstate restrictions https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59747689

Maybe they're all over reacting.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Maybe they're all over reacting.

Maybe the leaders of those respective countries are not being held to account by a number of MPs that do not want any restrictions implemented at all and got their leader by his tiny bollocks?

Additionally, just maybe those respective leaders are not narcissistic twaats who don't mind making tough decisions for the good of their populations instead of being more worried about looking like a Christmas Grinch?

[Dorcus]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Maybe the leaders of those respective countries are not being held to account by a number of MPs that do not want any restrictions implemented at all and got their leader by his tiny bollocks?

Additionally, just maybe those respective leaders are not narcissistic twaats who don't mind making tough decisions for the good of their populations instead of being more worried about looking like a Christmas Grinch?

Great analysis and I might add maybe some of those respective leaders care more about their people's health and welfare rather than the way they are destined to vote.

[Tuerto]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Maybe the leaders of those respective countries are not being held to account by a number of MPs that do not want any restrictions implemented at all and got their leader by his tiny bollocks?

Additionally, just maybe those respective leaders are not narcissistic twaats who don't mind making tough decisions for the good of their populations instead of being more worried about looking like a Christmas Grinch?

Yup, i agree.:xmasthumbup:

[xsnaggle]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Maybe the leaders of those respective countries are not being held to account by a number of MPs that do not want any restrictions implemented at all and got their leader by his tiny bollocks?

Additionally, just maybe those respective leaders are not narcissistic twaats who don't mind making tough decisions for the good of their populations instead of being more worried about looking like a Christmas Grinch?

Is there any reason for the vitriol? 'Narcissistic twaats'(sic) 'tiny bollox'? Its comments like that that have made this board so offensive.
I have no idea who is right and who is wrong but isn't it better to see how things start to pan out before blaming someone for
something that hasn't yet happened?
The argument of those against the stricter policy in wales point to the evidence that the new variant is less deadly and less likely to hospitalise than the previous, and when asked for the figures to justify his call Drakeford either couldn't or wouldn't produce them.
As for the continental countries, they are further behind the curve than UK, have no way to control their borders and have in general far smaller a percentage of populations vaccine protected. All these things give people pause for thought and to question why certain things happen.
But don't let that get in the way of slagging off the government, you do it in almost every other thread you join. Enjoy your christmas.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Is there any reason for the vitriol? 'Narcissistic twaats'(sic) 'tiny bollox'? Its comments like that that have made this board so offensive.
I have no idea who is right and who is wrong but isn't it better to see how things start to pan out before blaming someone for
something that hasn't yet happened?
The argument of those against the stricter policy in wales point to the evidence that the new variant is less deadly and less likely to hospitalise than the previous, and when asked for the figures to justify his call Drakeford either couldn't or wouldn't produce them.
As for the continental countries, they are further behind the curve than UK, have no way to control their borders and have in general far smaller a percentage of populations vaccine protected. All these things give people pause for thought and to question why certain things happen.
But don't let that get in the way of slagging off the government, you do it in almost every other thread you join. Enjoy your christmas.

Stop crying about bad language you massive fuucking wuss.

It's a message board not a monastery.

Hope you've had a good Christmas too.

[Tuerto]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Is there any reason for the vitriol? 'Narcissistic twaats'(sic) 'tiny bollox'? Its comments like that that have made this board so offensive.
I have no idea who is right and who is wrong but isn't it better to see how things start to pan out before blaming someone for
something that hasn't yet happened?
The argument of those against the stricter policy in wales point to the evidence that the new variant is less deadly and less likely to hospitalise than the previous, and when asked for the figures to justify his call Drakeford either couldn't or wouldn't produce them.
As for the continental countries, they are further behind the curve than UK, have no way to control their borders and have in general far smaller a percentage of populations vaccine protected. All these things give people pause for thought and to question why certain things happen.
But don't let that get in the way of slagging off the government, you do it in almost every other thread you join. Enjoy your christmas.

Norway has some of the strictest border controls in Europe and they've pretty much gone down the same line as Wales, or maybe even before Wales. It's a minefied, i tell ya :hehe:

[xsnaggle]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Norway has some of the strictest border controls in Europe and they've pretty much gone down the same line as Wales, or maybe even before Wales. It's a minefied, i tell ya :hehe:

I agree, but the mental affect of all these restrictions and lockdowns and the affect on childrens education are just as serious but some seem to think that they are unimportant, or at least the actions they take suggest that.
There is no right or wrong way, it should be about balancing to try to arrive at the least bad results for all those things. If schools don't open again it will be a disaster that will have repercussions far beyond the spring or next year. And teachers cannot go to school because they'll ger fined given the fact the welsh government knows they can work from home.

[Jordi Culé]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

I agree, but the mental affect of all these restrictions and lockdowns and the affect on childrens education are just as serious but some seem to think that they are unimportant, or at least the actions they take suggest that.
There is no right or wrong way, it should be about balancing to try to arrive at the least bad results for all those things. If schools don't open again it will be a disaster that will have repercussions far beyond the spring or next year. And teachers cannot go to school because they'll ger fined given the fact the welsh government knows they can work from home.

"And teachers cannot go to school because they'll get fined given the fact the Welsh government knows they can work from home."

You trying to do comedy or are really that twp?

[xsnaggle]

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"And teachers cannot go to school because they'll get fined given the fact the Welsh government knows they can work from home."

You trying to do comedy or are really that twp?

well if they don't get fined he is breaking his own rules!!! Explain how he isn't!

[superflyblues]

Re: Crowds banned from all sporting events in Wales for foreseeable future

Is there any reason for the vitriol? 'Narcissistic twaats'(sic) 'tiny bollox'? Its comments like that that have made this board so offensive.
I have no idea who is right and who is wrong but isn't it better to see how things start to pan out before blaming someone for
something that hasn't yet happened?
The argument of those against the stricter policy in wales point to the evidence that the new variant is less deadly and less likely to hospitalise than the previous, and when asked for the figures to justify his call Drakeford either couldn't or wouldn't produce them.
As for the continental countries, they are further behind the curve than UK, have no way to control their borders and have in general far smaller a percentage of populations vaccine protected. All these things give people pause for thought and to question why certain things happen.
But don't let that get in the way of slagging off the government, you do it in almost every other thread you join. Enjoy your christmas.

Re your claim about Drakeford producing figures, Welsh Government publishes the Technical Advisory Cell advice and modelling every month: https://gov.wales/advice-coronavirus...-advisory-cell

Re the situation on the continent, being further behind the curve is not an argument not to be proactive. Anyway, France has over 100,000 cases today.