Cancel culture

[MacAdder]

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Cleese did say that he was doing research into a documentary and I thought he did okay regarding the question he was asked.

No doubt he wanted to plug his latest shows and had grown tired of further talk on the cancel culture and her bringing up the Dave Chappelle situ may have been a curve ball which he wasn't expecting.
Sharpness and slight of tongue will have waned a little but his exit I thought he handled rather well, not unlike one of his sketches.

"Older" comedians have been mentioned and being in that category, JC may have become a little cynical, understandably in his old age.

Though he did do well not mention the war!

[MacAdder]

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Isn't the right-wing press largely associated with middle-aged men?

That's what I was thinking :hehe:

[JamesWales]

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It's just good old fashioned intolerance. Whereas before it was the likes of Mary Whitehouse, now it's people who identify as liberal but are anything but.

I agree there are consequences but t's all just gone a bit far. The recent case with Durham University and Rod Liddle is a good example, as is 'offence archaeology' when people dig up tweets from ten years ago they deem to be offensive and plaster them all over the internet to shame someone. (if you actually felt them offensive you wouldnt air them)

My suggestion is that if you don't like gay bars, don't go in them. If you don't like swearing, don't watch TV after 9pm. If you don't like some opinions, then leave it to others who do.

Or better still, actually expose yourself to all of the above and rid yourself of your tiresome prejudices.

[jon1959]

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[QUOTE=JamesWales;5257307]Maureen Lipman and Ricky Gervais talking about it too

Quite a few comments on 'cancel culture' hypocrisy making the rounds - like this one about Maureen Lipman!

Zoe Lafferty@zoe_lafferty

She protested outside and then inside the BAC screaming that a play I directed should be canceled. A play by her own admission she had never read, hadn't seen and didn't know the content of.

[NYCBlue]

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Cancel culture is a right-wing myth. They didn't seem to have a problem with it when they were burning Beatles records.

[Elwood Blues]

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odd video, I don't think cleese came across particularly well there, he certainly didn't "destroy" the interviewer. it was all a bit garbled.

you often hear these older comedians lamenting about cancel this and woke that, while the younger generation of comedians just laugh at them and get on with it.
it happens to the best of us, but these older comedians are just out of touch.

So there is no problem whatsoever with cancel culture then?

Just because they are younger does that mean that they are right.

And where would you put Ricky Gervais? Young, old in between?

From this short clip he seems to have some problems with cancel culture as well

[Dorcus]

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He wanted to plug his own material and she was looking for something current to report on. Different agendas and he wasn't astute enough to manipulate the situation to his own advantage.

I just watched it and I don't think the woman was "obliterated" at all. As you say he was on air simply with the purpose of promoting his gigs. I thought he came across as afraid to develop any question she posed and simply flounced ASAP. A fantastic comedian but this wasn't one of his best performances.

[life on mars]

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I do think that comedy will suffer from the caution around edgy comment as it becomes a society of political correctness, it maybe for the good it may well restict free comedy

Bill Hicks will be turning in his grave

[delmbox]

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There's loads

Chubby Brown for one

As far as I can see he had one gig cancelled, in Sheffield. Here's a list of all the other ones he's still planning on playing next year

https://www.ents24.com/uk/tour-dates/roy-chubby-brown

Hardly cancelled is he

[NYCBlue]

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People get "canceled" when they are no longer economically viable.

[splott parker]

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Didn't Jim Davidson get ostracised for something or other?

Being a useless, unfunny c*nt if I recall.

[Elwood Blues]

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I just watched it and I don't think the woman was "obliterated" at all. As you say he was on air simply with the purpose of promoting his gigs. I thought he came across as afraid to develop any question she posed and simply flounced ASAP. A fantastic comedian but this wasn't one of his best performances.

I would agree she wasn't obliterated. and if he had been a politician he would have expected to be asked questions outside those he had been asked on for. But these sort of interviews are usually meant to promote what the interviewee is doing. Look at the Graham Norton show. I enjoy it mut much of it is just a plug for what the guests are currently doing.



If Tom Cruise was on and Graham suddenly said "Now Tom I would like your views on scientology" he would get very short shrift.

The first general question about cancel culture was probably acceptable.But then she asked a second after which it was pretty obvious he wantd to get the interview back to where it was intended. She didn't take the hint and aslked a third question at w3hich point he quite rightly felt he had had enough.

I don't think he was afraid to develop any question she asked,he just didn't want to. Which is his right.

As he said at one point it is a very complex subject. If the BBC had wanted the interview to be about that they shouild have made it plain before hand

[Dorcus]

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I would agree she wasn't obliterated. and if he had been a politician he would have expected to be asked questions outside those he had been asked on for. But these sort of interviews are usually meant to promote what the interviewee is doing. Look at the Graham Norton show. I enjoy it mut much of it is just a plug for what the guests are currently doing.



If Tom Cruise was on and Graham suddenly said "Now Tom I would like your views on scientology" he would get very short shrift.

The first general question about cancel culture was probably acceptable.But then she asked a second after which it was pretty obvious he wantd to get the interview back to where it was intended. She didn't take the hint and aslked a third question at w3hich point he quite rightly felt he had had enough.

I don't think he was afraid to develop any question she asked,he just didn't want to. Which is his right.

As he said at one point it is a very complex subject. If the BBC had wanted the interview to be about that they shouild have made it plain before hand

I don't think these people should be interviewed just to get a free plug.

Fair point perhaps the BBC should have discussed with him the full remit of the interview. But to be honest this is a non story really. The interviewer handled it well in my opinion and he just flounced. Not much to it really.

[Pearcey3]

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Cancel culture is a right-wing myth. They didn't seem to have a problem with it when they were burning Beatles records.

This. The use of the word “woke” is also derogatory and meant to be seen in a bad light. Right wingers moan about cancel culture but are up in arms if somebody says something that doesn’t fit into their narrow view of the world.

[ninian opinian]

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Cancel culture :facepalm: more made up nonsense imported by the far right looney toons in the good old US of A.