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  • #31
    Re: Worst England batting side ever?

    I've seen it said on Twitter that if Ireland or Afghanistan had lost a match in the manner England just did, there would be calls for them to be stripped of their recently won test status. Whoever said that is right and yet all you get from England in between series with Australia is how they're "building for the next Ashes series", so it seems the complete and utter shambles we've been watching for the last couple of weeks is the result of two and a half years of meticulous planning!

    I don't think this is a great Australia side by any means. One lesson to be learned from English cricket in the twenty first century is that, one exception in 2011 (when Australia were very weak) apart, England lose at least four in a five test series when they go down under.

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    • #32
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      Originally posted by The Bloop View Post
      Batsmen used to wait for a bad ball for a scoring opportunity. These days, because of the amount of one day cricket, the mindset is that every ball is a scoring opportunity. They're all, on the whole, impatient.
      I'm not a fan of cricket at all but I remember Geoffrey Boycott and his approach to test cricket which killed any remnant of enthusiasm I had for that format of the game. You surely would not want a return to that kind of somnolent stuff!

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      • #33
        Re: Worst England batting side ever?

        Originally posted by Gofer Blue View Post
        I'm not a fan of cricket at all but I remember Geoffrey Boycott and his approach to test cricket which killed any remnant of enthusiasm I had for that format of the game. You surely would not want a return to that kind of somnolent stuff!
        but thats what test cricket is about

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        • #34
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          Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
          I've seen it said on Twitter that if Ireland or Afghanistan had lost a match in the manner England just did, there would be calls for them to be stripped of their recently won test status. Whoever said that is right and yet all you get from England in between series with Australia is how they're "building for the next Ashes series", so it seems the complete and utter shambles we've been watching for the last couple of weeks is the result of two and a half years of meticulous planning!
          I appreciate its a big rivalry and occasion but the way it dominated discussion during and eclipsed the tests against NZ and India this summer (the two best test teams on the planet) really irked me at the time.

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by poc View Post
            but thats what test cricket is about
            There needs to be some sort of balance. Test cricket is different from the 80s.

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            • #36
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              Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
              England have been good at 4 day cricket in this series.
              They are getting better at 3 day cricket as well

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              • #37
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                Originally posted by Elwood Blues View Post
                They are getting better at 3 day cricket as well
                To true. My Mrs just said perhaps it was too hot for them.

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                • #38
                  Re: Worst England batting side ever?

                  Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                  There needs to be some sort of balance. Test cricket is different from the 80s.
                  the problem seems to be all the bish bash cricket thats played players play risky shots instead of building there innings and scoring off the bad ball when it comes

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                  • #39
                    Re: Worst England batting side ever?

                    Originally posted by dandywarhol View Post
                    To true. My Mrs just said perhaps it was too hot for them.
                    Some like it hot.That would make a great film title

                    Oh hang on...........

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                    • #40
                      Re: Worst England batting side ever?

                      Where do England get their players from these days?Is it still from private schools?
                      Perhaps coaches need to get out into the communities.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Worst England batting side ever?

                        Difficult to argue against it.

                        Nine test defeats in a year, the worst by any team ever in a calendar year.

                        They play too much white ball cricket but it's not going anywhere soon unfortunately.
                        The long game has been in decline for a long time now and England have become a shambles.

                        Gotta feel sorry for Jimmy Anderson flogging his guts out only to be let down by a bunch of incompetents.

                        Too many "types" of player getting caps which has devalued the honour of playing for your country.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Worst England batting side ever?

                          Originally posted by dandywarhol View Post
                          Where do England get their players from these days?Is it still from private schools?
                          Perhaps coaches need to get out into the communities.
                          The majority of the squad have had a private education.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Worst England batting side ever?

                            England’s third highest run scorer in tests this year is extras.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Worst England batting side ever?

                              Wonder if Kiran Carlson will get a go soon. They could certainly do a lot worse than give him a chance. Classy player, great character, would love to see him get a chance.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Worst England batting side ever?

                                Originally posted by chrisp_1927 View Post
                                Wonder if Kiran Carlson will get a go soon. They could certainly do a lot worse than give him a chance. Classy player, great character, would love to see him get a chance.
                                Depends if the selectors feel like venturing over the bridge for a change?

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