Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

[cityhammer]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

Whilst I would consider it banter, as would most welshmen, what i find hard to digest is the double standards. The welsh are always expected to laugh it off, whereas we get called out for it. Remember 2 seasons ag, Raeding in FA Cup, Reading fans sing sheep shagging bastards, but when we reply with always shit on the english side of the bridge there's an announcement asking us to refrain from racist and homophobic chanting. We were the headline on every news programme that night.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

Isn’t banter a two way process? As there is no response from GP it is just an insult/abuse or whatever but not banter.

The same with the Hymns and Arias chant. If we are b not playing the Jacks it can’t be banter. If we are playing them and they don’t respond it is not banter. If they do respond by singing “Child Abuse victims we know what we are” it becomes banter.

Just a thought

Nicely argued.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

The thing about the word banter is that it's open to interpretation. The definition of the word banter includes the term teasing, yet teasing is often defined as making jokes in order to embarrass, annoy or upset someone.

[Enoch Mort]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

The thing about the word banter is that it's open to interpretation. The definition of the word banter includes the term teasing, yet teasing is often defined as making jokes in order to embarrass, annoy or upset someone.

It seems to me that “banter” has become a nice acceptable word to cover verbal abuse, insults and sometimes discriminatory language. The light hearted aspect of what I would once have understood to be included in its definition has gone by the board.

[B. Oddie]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

A man needs a release somehow.

[Canton Kev]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

Isn’t banter a two way process? As there is no response from GP it is just an insult/abuse or whatever but not banter.

The same with the Hymns and Arias chant. If we are b not playing the Jacks it can’t be banter. If we are playing them and they don’t respond it is not banter. If they do respond by singing “Child Abuse victims we know what we are” it becomes banter.

Just a thought

Hmm interesting interpretation and I don’t necessarily disagree. However that would mean any comedian on TV making a joke can’t be considered banter as there’s no ability to respond. I’ve heard many a jokes made about Wales, football fans, men, cyclists, young people, etc that I would happily consider lighthearted banter but without the ability for me to respond.

[StraightOuttaCanton]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

The thing about the word banter is that it's open to interpretation. The definition of the word banter includes the term teasing, yet teasing is often defined as making jokes in order to embarrass, annoy or upset someone.

Interpretation is the key word. It probably applies to the majority of written disagreements on this board but in the words of Brian… we are all individuals.

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

It's only banter when Price gets on the tannoy and calls them English cnuts

[life on mars]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

Don't say anything is best or you will be cancelled

[Citizen's Nephew]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

Interpretation is the key word. It probably applies to the majority of written disagreements on this board but in the words of Brian… we are all individuals.

"I'm not"

[ToTaL ITK]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

Don't say anything is best or you will be cancelled

you can't cancel something that you haven't subscribed to

[Enoch Mort]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

In a recent message to its members the Trust have published the minute of the meeting back in October when this subject was raised. The minute was taken by the club and, belatedly, issued weekend before last. It reads......

"Everyone in attendance was unanimously against the chant including representatives from South Wales Police and Cardiff City Football Club. The supporters’ groups will raise the issue with their members”


So, the club have taken a position against the Hymns and Arias song. The Trust have now contacted their members for their views to feedback to the club.

Having taken a position against the song the assumption must be that the club, when provided with a wider breadth of opinion, will try to do something about it if that opinion reflects that of the meeting ?

[Dorcus]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

In a recent message to its members the Trust have published the minute of the meeting back in October when this subject was raised. The minute was taken by the club and, belatedly, issued weekend before last. It reads......

"Everyone in attendance was unanimously against the chant including representatives from South Wales Police and Cardiff City Football Club. The supporters’ groups will raise the issue with their members”


So, the club have taken a position against the Hymns and Arias song. The Trust have now contacted their members for their views to feedback to the club.

Having taken a position against the song the assumption must be that the club, when provided with a wider breadth of opinion, will try to do something about it if that opinion reflects that of the meeting ?

I've got to be honest I hope they never sing it again, anywhere. I absolutely detest the tune.

[bobh]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

A man needs a release somehow.

Vaseline does it for me.

[J R Hartley]

Re: Banter, or over stepping the mark ?

Easy to say it’s only banter when youre not on the receiving end. Having thousands of people booing and abusing him clearly took its toll. Screaming out when he’s on doubles. It’s his livliehood and people are having an effect on it. His wife and daughters are also there and have to witness their dad getting abused like that.

But hey, it’s only banter.