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  • #16
    Re: Sense of impending doom

    Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
    I'm surprised you thought we were doing so well against Bournemouth up until the sending off Bob. I thought it was more a case of Bournemouth having an off day. I thought Morison's selection of Vaulks and Bacuna was dire and filled me with dread from the outset.

    I agree his overreaction with Davies was unforgivable and I think he would do well to eat a large portion of humble pie. But I think he'll get nowhere fast selecting players who have proved their unsuitability in the past.
    On the nail. We were holding out but not necessarily as good as. But had Moore done better with the two good chances we may have actually come away with something. Decision to start with vaulks and bacuna was criminal and playing Ralls in the wrong position did not help either. Hope he learns from this.
    Spedger

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    • #17
      Re: Sense of impending doom

      We played the leaders and lost at thier ground 3 nil that's about what was expected. How we perform against the likes of the Brizzies, Preston will tell us more.

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      • #18
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        Originally posted by splott parker View Post
        It’s a no brainer, isn’t it really? If a club is going to bring in players surely the spadework should have been done in November/December and all done and dusted start of January. Ridiculous doing your business on January 31st three or four games later, plenty of points potentially down the drain. Points that keep you up/get you up and you’d think the initial early financial output in the window would be more than recouped.
        From the little that has been said by Morison my guess is that we have 2-3 loan targets, but expect the parent clubs to slow time any deals until they have a better idea of how Covid has affected their squads. Watters and Wintle back in. Would be very surprised if Murphy or Whyte came back (unless Morison plans to play a back 4 and wants a wing option) and a couple of loans..... maybe.

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        • #19
          Re: Sense of impending doom

          Originally posted by jon1959 View Post
          Would be very surprised if Murphy or Whyte came back (unless Morison plans to play a back 4 and wants a wing option)
          I wasn't expecting Whyte to come back either, but another assist for him today - 4 in his last 3 games now. He was whoscored's star man last time out too, so he might if he keeps that form going.

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          • #20
            Re: Sense of impending doom

            Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
            How much money will we lose if we go down? From a business point of view would it be prudent to gamble some of that in January? ANd not January 31st. Today. Two players could make a huge difference.
            This would definitely be my preferred option. Tan can't afford for us to slip into L1 surely. Others have mentioned the financial millstone of court cases and I'm guessing (I stress) but administration would surely be on the cards? The cynic in me feels that all of this is already planned because we can blame the board, Warnock, Tan as much as we want for running things into the ground but I cannot believe this wasn't factored in a while ago.

            Just on the subject of Morison. He's had enough time to know his starting eleven and he doesn't. Two new players recalled (though I feel he should recall Whyte & Murphy too because we're too thin a squad especially during Covid) and A.N. Other loan signing/s will confuse him even more. By January we should have had a settled starting eleven and be looking at not shipping bloody goals in the first 45. The pattern of going a goal down at the break and sneaking a draw or win isn't going to keep us up. I actually thought Bournemouth was a big step backward. I think they could have been beaten (same as when they came to us) but whilst I think our style is changing, it's tactics on the day that I'm concerned about.

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            • #21
              Re: Sense of impending doom

              How much League 1 and 2 football is on TV? Championship football is shown all over the world. I should imagine that there's a significant drop-off in TV money.

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              • #22
                Re: Sense of impending doom

                Originally posted by NYCBlue View Post
                How much League 1 and 2 football is on TV? Championship football is shown all over the world. I should imagine that there's a significant drop-off in TV money.
                I think the bigger drop off will come from massively reduced EPL payments in League One. Championship clubs without parachute payments got about £4.5m this season. Not sure of the figures for L1 and L2 but there is a steep reduction.

                TV revenues are in the range of £10-100,000 per match in the Championship (I think £10,000 to away teams) but the amount depends on the day and time slot, and probably an assessment on attraction to neutrals.

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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by Undercoverinwurzelland View Post
                  I wasn't expecting Whyte to come back either, but another assist for him today - 4 in his last 3 games now. He was whoscored's star man last time out too, so he might if he keeps that form going.
                  Star man again today, and he only played half an hour. He's on fire!

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                  • #24
                    Re: Sense of impending doom

                    we will be fine

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                    • #25
                      Re: Sense of impending doom

                      Originally posted by 19bluebirds27 View Post
                      I’m normally
                      Optimistic when it come to Cardiff.
                      But I think our form will be much the same as it is now over the remaining months picking up 4-6 points a month.
                      I probably would accept a final day shootout against Derby.
                      Problem would be that if Derby find themselves in that position which would be a mega achievement on their part - they would actually have accumulated enough points on the pitch for a play off and by no means would we be playing a fellow struggler.
                      If it was a final day shootout against Derby then that would mean they would either be one place below us or one above and one of us would be in the bottom three. How on earth, on that basis, you wouldn't class Derby as a ‘fellow struggler’ is beyond me. In those kind of games anything can happen.

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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by dml1954 View Post
                        If it was a final day shootout against Derby then that would mean they would either be one place below us or one above and one of us would be in the bottom three. How on earth, on that basis, you wouldn't class Derby as a ‘fellow struggler’ is beyond me. In those kind of games anything can happen.
                        You realise Derby have had 21 points deducted yea.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Sense of impending doom

                          Originally posted by Dorcus View Post
                          I'm surprised you thought we were doing so well against Bournemouth up until the sending off Bob. I thought it was more a case of Bournemouth having an off day. I thought Morison's selection of Vaulks and Bacuna was dire and filled me with dread from the outset.

                          I agree his overreaction with Davies was unforgivable and I think he would do well to eat a large portion of humble pie. But I think he'll get nowhere fast selecting players who have proved their unsuitability in the past.
                          I thought Bournemouth were a bit complacent in the first half and things may well have turned out differently after Parker had read them the riot act, but, if someone watched that first half as a neutral without knowing anything about both sides' form and league position, I think they would have thought the team in blue were unlucky to be losing after forty five minutes.

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by Alan Lung View Post
                            We are too good to go down. A shaky start to the new year then we go on a winning run in February and March beating all comers. Can't see any of the bottom 3 bothering us.
                            No yet gets relegated is too good to go down, and City certainly ain’t good enough at the moment

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Cleve van Leef View Post
                              No yet gets relegated is too good to go down, and City certainly ain’t good enough at the moment
                              No team that gets relegated!!

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                              • #30
                                Re: Sense of impending doom

                                Half way through the season and it's difficult to see us getting enough form to pull away. But also we shouldn't lose 8 on the bounce again.

                                How costly it could prove that they didn't just get rid of MM after the West brom match.

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