Player value for money

[TexasBlue]

Remind me of which player earns what per week, and more importantly who is currently earning their wage?

[Rjk]

Re: Player value for money

we don't really know tbh, there are various things on the internet but who knows if they are remotely accurate.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/footballleaguefc.com/2019-20-cardiff-city-player-wages/

that has been posted on here a few times for last season.

https://www.capology.com/club/cardiff/salaries/

this is a new one I've found for this season. no idea if it's even close to being correct, it does show how much we've taken out of the wage bill already (it claims we've halved it from ,20 Million to 10 million) but the problem is the loss of parachute payments cut our income by 30 before we even get started on covid effects.

[tomcat]

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we don't really know tbh, there are various things on the internet but who knows if they are remotely accurate.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/footballleaguefc.com/2019-20-cardiff-city-player-wages/

that has been posted on here a few times for last season.

https://www.capology.com/club/cardiff/salaries/

this is a new one I've found for this season. no idea if it's even close to being correct, it does show how much we've taken out of the wage bill already (it claims we've halved it from ,20 Million to 10 million) but the problem is the loss of parachute payments cut our income by 30 before we even get started on covid effects.

I can reliably tell you that those figures are wrong, Smithies is on a lot less than £30k per week. I can also tell you that Warnock persuaded one of the players to switch to Unique Sports Group ( who may have an employee with the same surname) when we were going up and he had a £16k per week increase. Tan also raised an enquiry relating to the signing of Bacuna, which surprises no-one really

[Rjk]

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I can reliably tell you that those figures are wrong, Smithies is on a lot less than £30k per week. I can also tell you that Warnock persuaded one of the players to switch to Unique Sports Group ( who may have an employee with the same surname) when we were going up and he had a £16k per week increase. Tan also raised an enquiry relating to the signing of Bacuna, which surprises no-one really

I would also presume that we are still paying a decent proportion of Josh Murphy's wage at the least, possibly the other loanees too.

[tomcat]

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I would also presume that we are still paying a decent proportion of Josh Murphy's wage at the least, possibly the other loanees too.

Preston are meant to be paying half of his £20k wages

[Ninian1962]

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I can reliably tell you that those figures are wrong, Smithies is on a lot less than £30k per week. I can also tell you that Warnock persuaded one of the players to switch to Unique Sports Group ( who may have an employee with the same surname) when we were going up and he had a £16k per week increase. Tan also raised an enquiry relating to the signing of Bacuna, which surprises no-one really

Might that player who swapped have a surname very similar to our current manager by any chance?

[tomcat]

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Might that player who swapped have a surname very similar to our current manager by any chance?

You may be correct :hehe: I find it surprising that Tan trusted Warnock so much, I guess it goes to show how convincing Old Neil can be, allegedly, when there's cash at the end of a transaction. Tan also had wind that some of the Cornelius money transfer had been siphoned off to a particular account which may or may not have been connected to a manager and head of recruitmeConversations were had and both parties denied any involvement. I always though it strange when the same pair then randomly came out with statements praising Tan :hehe:

[City123]

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I can reliably tell you that those figures are wrong, Smithies is on a lot less than £30k per week. I can also tell you that Warnock persuaded one of the players to switch to Unique Sports Group ( who may have an employee with the same surname) when we were going up and he had a £16k per week increase. Tan also raised an enquiry relating to the signing of Bacuna, which surprises no-one really

Didn't quite a few switch to USM/USG? Ralls is with them, as are Morrison, Bacuna, Healey, Mark Harris, Pilkington and Peltier

Interestingly summer signings Giles, Collins & McGuinness are also there, though that's probably coincidence :sherlock:

[tomcat]

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Didn't quite a few switch to USM/USG? Ralls is with them, as are Morrison, Bacuna, Healey, Mark Harris, Pilkington and Peltier

Interestingly summer signings Giles, Collins & McGuinness are also there, though that's probably coincidence :sherlock:

Spot on :xmassherlock:

[Rjk]

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You may be correct :hehe: I find it surprising that Tan trusted Warnock so much, I guess it goes to show how convincing Old Neil can be, allegedly, when there's cash at the end of a transaction. Tan also had wind that some of the Cornelius money transfer had been siphoned off to a particular account which may or may not have been connected to a manager and head of recruitmeConversations were had and both parties denied any involvement. I always though it strange when the same pair then randomly came out with statements praising Tan :hehe:

I remember there was a documentary series about QPR years ago, and when Warnock took over and turned them around one of their owners was saying something like "finally we've got someone who knows what they're doing".
when Warnock took a relegation threatened side and won promotion within 2 seasons the members of our board must have thought similarly, so it isn't surprising that he was given a free hand.
he is also very convincing when he talks, it all sounds so simple when you listen to him, so it must be very seductive to the board members, especially in.ohr case when they are shall we say, still learning about the football side of things.

Warnock isn't without some significant strengths, but it seems like what was best for him and what was best for the club wasn't always aligned, and without a stronger board we've ended up pandering to the former.

[NYCBlue]

Re: Player value for money

I can reliably tell you that those figures are wrong, Smithies is on a lot less than £30k per week. I can also tell you that Warnock persuaded one of the players to switch to Unique Sports Group ( who may have an employee with the same surname) when we were going up and he had a £16k per week increase. Tan also raised an enquiry relating to the signing of Bacuna, which surprises no-one really

What does this mean? A formal enquiry? What were the findings?

[dembethewarrior]

Re: Player value for money

we don't really know tbh, there are various things on the internet but who knows if they are remotely accurate.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/footballleaguefc.com/2019-20-cardiff-city-player-wages/

that has been posted on here a few times for last season.

https://www.capology.com/club/cardiff/salaries/

this is a new one I've found for this season. no idea if it's even close to being correct, it does show how much we've taken out of the wage bill already (it claims we've halved it from ,20 Million to 10 million) but the problem is the loss of parachute payments cut our income by 30 before we even get started on covid effects.

Nice of McGuinness Collins and Colwill to play for free.

[tomcat]

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He did it personally, having sought advice from an industry expert. No other club were interested in paying as much in fee or wages and the length of contract seemed strange for a middling player. Realised he'd been tucked up, no chance of recompense from anywhere though....

[Rjk]

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He did it personally, having sought advice from an industry expert. No other club were interested in paying as much in fee or wages and the length of contract seemed strange for a middling player. Realised he'd been tucked up, no chance of recompense from anywhere though....

even if it's just a lesson's learned exercise that's probably a good thing to have done

[Ninian1962]

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I remember there was a documentary series about QPR years ago, and when Warnock took over and turned them around one of their owners was saying something like "finally we've got someone who knows what they're doing".
when Warnock took a relegation threatened side and won promotion within 2 seasons the members of our board must have thought similarly, so it isn't surprising that he was given a free hand.
he is also very convincing when he talks, it all sounds so simple when you listen to him, so it must be very seductive to the board members, especially in.ohr case when they are shall we say, still learning about the football side of things.

Warnock isn't without some significant strengths, but it seems like what was best for him and what was best for the club wasn't always aligned, and without a stronger board we've ended up pandering to the former.

QPR were less pleased with the transfer dealings that took Joey Barton from Newcastle to QPR. Wonder who their manager was at the time who set up that deal? And who the football agent was who was involved in that deal with the manager?

Just asking!