if Kieffer moore leaves

[City123]

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Consistently shine?!? OK.....

My opinion, in the current transfer climate:

Danny Ward - £500,000 (at a push)
Kieffer Moore - £4,500,000 (tops)

A 1 in 3 record for Wales is very good and he has a good influence on most of the games he plays for Wales. I don't think we'll get anywhere near £8m for Moore, nor should we, but there's no point downplaying how he does for Wales

[delmbox]

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Consistently shine?!? OK.....

My opinion, in the current transfer climate:

Danny Ward - £500,000 (at a push)
Kieffer Moore - £4,500,000 (tops)

Yes, Kieffer Moore plays consistently well for Wales.

I'm saying £2.5m for DW assuming he continues in this vein and gets at least 15 goals this season but yes I might be being a bit generous.

[tforturton]

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Surely we have to be looking for at least £5m for Moore. I know there are people who say he was a one-season wonder at Cardiff, but I can't see Bournemouth signing anyone on that basis, and also, there are plenty of clubs who would love to have him in their team. The question is whether this is the sale that sends us down. There's talk of Giles returning, but the player that would benefit from his crosses is surely Moore? Even if the money is spent wisely on the players we need, I still think it's not a good idea.

[StraightOuttaCanton]

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Consistently shine?!? OK.....

My opinion, in the current transfer climate:

Danny Ward - £500,000 (at a push)
Kieffer Moore - £4,500,000 (tops)

9 x the value of Danny Ward for a striker that’s only scored 5 goals this season compared to 15?

[Rjk]

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9 x the value of Danny Ward for a striker that’s only scored 5 goals this season compared to 15?

moore is clearly worth a lot more than ward.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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£8 million for a 29 year-old with 5 goals to his name this season? Really? I'd say that's extremely optimistic

Danny Ward is less than a year older than Moore and has scored twice as many goals in the Championship this season. What do you reckon he's worth?

I agree with you. I don't believe he's worth that kind of money. There's a reason we got him on the cheap. If we get it, great, but I don't think we will. Sure, he had a great season last season but isn't that the only one he's ever had? If he hadn't have been the Wales striker, I don't think we'd have bought him. I think our Wales specs have clouded our Cardiff specs.

TBH I'm p*ssed off with him this season too. I think he's let us down.

I also agree with TOBW. It'll be an awful transfer window if we don't replace him with another striker, even if we get Giles back.

[The Lone Gunman]

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A 1 in 3 record for Wales is very good and he has a good influence on most of the games he plays for Wales. I don't think we'll get anywhere near £8m for Moore, nor should we, but there's no point downplaying how he does for Wales

Fair enough. I reckon a suggestion that Moore 'consistently shines for Wales' is well over the top, but each to their own.

Don't get me wrong, he's certainly a decent player on his day, does well in specific roles for both City and Wales when he's in form, but he rarely creates something out of nothing or scores goals from any sort of distance. He's not that kind of player. To my eyes, he never stands out in terms of his ability with the ball. He's an effective target man, but not much more.

I'm pretty sure that Bournemouth view him as a back-up to Solanke more than anything - a worthwhile punt for a few million if he can help them get over the line and into the Premier League. I doubt he'll get too much game time if they get there, though.

[The Lone Gunman]

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9 x the value of Danny Ward for a striker that’s only scored 5 goals this season compared to 15?

At a push. And Ward has scored 10.

[Citizen's Nephew]

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Fair enough. I reckon a suggestion that Moore 'consistently shines for Wales' is well over the top, but each to their own.

Don't get me wrong, he's certainly a decent player on his day, does well in specific roles for both City and Wales when he's in form, but he rarely creates something out of nothing or scores goals from any sort of distance. He's not that kind of player. To my eyes, he never stands out in terms of his ability with the ball. He's an effective target man, but not much more.

I'm pretty sure that Bournemouth view him as a back-up to Solanke more than anything - a worthwhile punt for a few million if he can help them get over the line and into the Premier League. I doubt he'll get too much game time if they get there, though.

That's the thing, it would have to be Solanke over Moore for me. I'm totally on the same page as you with this.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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Two points:

1) Sam Surridge is 23 and was an England Under-21 international not so long ago.

2) What Bournemouth managed to get from Stoke for another player is irrelevant. It's the equivalent of saying City should have paid £6 million for Moore because they sold Zohore to West Brom for £8 million.

1) Surridge is not a proven goalscorer. Moore is.

2) What Bournemouth managed to get from Stoke is an indication of how much people will pay for goalscorers in the division. At the very least, Bournemouth are signing him to push them over the line and think he's a very good player. They've got a lot of money, and we should be asking for that. If he goes there, they've got to think he's got half a chance of scoring in the PL. I think Moore has been dreadful at times this season and has not wanted to be here at all but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. His performances on the international level are testament to that, especially when he bullies defenders such as Skrinar, and scores goals against sides like Belgium and Switzerland.

[BLUETIT]

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1) Surridge is not a proven goalscorer. MOORE IS

2) What Bournemouth managed to get from Stoke is an indication of how much people will pay for goalscorers in the division. At the very least, Bournemouth are signing him to push them over the line and think he's a very good player. They've got a lot of money, and we should be asking for that. If he goes there, they've got to think he's got half a chance of scoring in the PL. I think Moore has been dreadful at times this season and has not wanted to be here at all but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. His performances on the international level are testament to that, especially when he bullies defenders such as Skrinar, and scores goals against sides like Belgium and Switzerland.

Not this season he isn’t

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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Not this season he isn’t

I know. I said so

[The Lone Gunman]

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1) Surridge is not a proven goalscorer. Moore is.

2) What Bournemouth managed to get from Stoke is an indication of how much people will pay for goalscorers in the division. At the very least, Bournemouth are signing him to push them over the line and think he's a very good player. They've got a lot of money, and we should be asking for that. If he goes there, they've got to think he's got half a chance of scoring in the PL. I think Moore has been dreadful at times this season and has not wanted to be here at all but that doesn't mean he's a bad player. His performances on the international level are testament to that, especially when he bullies defenders such as Skrinar, and scores goals against sides like Belgium and Switzerland.

All fair enough. I don't agree with some of it, but fair enough.

I'm off out and the Moore argument kind of defeats me because I just don't rate him - not highly, anyway. But I'll leave you with two observations. Firstly, Stoke were obviously buying what they regarded as long-term potential when they purchased Surridge, much in the same way that Bournemouth were when they shelled out no less than £17 million to buy Solanke. Nobody buying Moore will have that in mind given his age. Secondly, not so very long ago there were people on this board seriously arguing that Moore was in the £20 to £25 million price bracket.

[life on mars]

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He is worth 5 million tops

[Captain_Sensible]

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Talk on Wigan message boards that they would be entitled to a 20% sell-on fee.