So, is anybody still behind Harris?

[City123]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

There's enough in the cons list now that even if he does finish the season I don't think he's the manager to take us forward over the next two plus years.

I still think it won't be til '22-'23 season when we have a real chance of promotion thanks to errors made by Warnock and co before they left but if Harris sticks around another year we could be pushing that into the '23-'24 season.

I wouldn't be so pessimistic, I think we've got a real shot at the League 1 playoffs next season

[MacAdder]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

I think most people who wanted Warnock out felt it was theperfect time for a change in style.... I doubt any of them though a poor Warnock was the right choice.

So you think bringing in a different manager is going to change everything for the better just like that?

Jurgen effin Klopp would struggle

Top to bottom needs an overhaul.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

Lots of people still think Harris is good enough. They just support Swansea City.

[Bobby Dandruff]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

Lots of people still think Harris is good enough. They just support Swansea City.

Now I actually lol’d at that! 👍

[2b2bdoo]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

So you think bringing in a different manager is going to change everything for the better just like that?

Jurgen effin Klopp would struggle

Top to bottom needs an overhaul.

No who said that?
I'd have thought a season on we would see some kind of improvement t or some kind of plan some kind of style change.
I've seen very little that's been improved on that warranted him being the correct choice.

[Elwood Blues]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

The silence of the Harris in lot has spoken volumes these past few weeks.

Even they can't still be backing him.

I hate these stupid expressions such as Harris in lot. They tend to suggest the club is split into cliques

They are fans who happen to have a different view to you.

The silence of those who do not think Harris should be manager spoke volumes at the end of last season as well.


As I pointed out elsewhere Jimmy Scoular, one of the club legendary managers , had several bad patches in his first few years ( didn't win a league game until October , finished 20thth in his second, had a run in his third where we didn't wind for 12 games got 3 points and were 22nd In early November when we next won. We were never above 19th after that ( and that was just for one week and finished 20th again.

A message board then if it had existed would have gone into meltdown. Scoular would probably not even reached his third season and who knows what would have happened.

It is of course a different world now ( and even then Scoular can be considered lucky not many manager survived two successive 20th positions.

Oh and a lot of the football was dross as well.

I have a lot of sympathy with the view Craig Bellamy expressed that manager needed to be given time but I am afraid that is Utopia

[Croesy Blue]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

The silence of the Harris in lot has spoken volumes these past few weeks.

Even they can't still be backing him.

This is a bit childish isn’t it? People wanted him to do well and were backing him.

It’s almost like you’re pleased he’s doing shit so you can say “I told you so” to people who wanted to give him a fair chance.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

Harris , and the players are not , thankfully having to face the dogs abuse he and the team are getting from afar

If people think changing the manager is going to turn around a bad run of form like someone with the midas touch then I would like to hear some names

Warnock is a fantastic man motivator who goes against the pretty diving happy clappy modern football nonsense and gets results

But the fans turned on him

So until the club makes a move or Harris does a runner he's manager of Cardiff City and if I were to see him shopping in tescos I would say unlucky , onto the next game .

We have about a ten point buffer from the relegation zone , if we sneak a couple of wins we will be solidly in mid table

Then we can regroup and the new signings and Moore can settle back in

Unless somebody has some names its all pointless

If those at the top make a move then hopefully they get their man but who is out there ?

Is Len Ashurst still about or has he still at Sunderland?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

Nathan Blake

Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos

[Llandaff Blue]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

Harris , and the players are not , thankfully having to face the dogs abuse he and the team are getting from afar

If people think changing the manager is going to turn around a bad run of form like someone with the midas touch then I would like to hear some names

Warnock is a fantastic man motivator who goes against the pretty diving happy clappy modern football nonsense and gets results

But the fans turned on him

So until the club makes a move or Harris does a runner he's manager of Cardiff City and if I were to see him shopping in tescos I would say unlucky , onto the next game .

We have about a ten point buffer from the relegation zone , if we sneak a couple of wins we will be solidly in mid table

Then we can regroup and the new signings and Moore can settle back in

Unless somebody has some names its all pointless

If those at the top make a move then hopefully they get their man but who is out there ?

Is Len Ashurst still about or has he still at Sunderland?

It's 9 points. We're 9 points ahead of Rotherham who have two games in hand, sure they are guaranteed wins but they have only won 3 games fewer than us all season, we aren't in a position to ignore the threat of a relegation battle.

As for a new manager turning around this form, why is that out of your imagination? We've lost 6 games straight, you think no-one out there could do better? Laughable.

[NYCBlue]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

I hate these stupid expressions such as Harris in lot. They tend to suggest the club is split into cliques

They are fans who happen to have a different view to you.

The silence of those who do not think Harris should be manager spoke volumes at the end of last season as well.


As I pointed out elsewhere Jimmy Scoular, one of the club legendary managers , had several bad patches in his first few years ( didn't win a league game until October , finished 20thth in his second, had a run in his third where we didn't wind for 12 games got 3 points and were 22nd In early November when we next won. We were never above 19th after that ( and that was just for one week and finished 20th again.

A message board then if it had existed would have gone into meltdown. Scoular would probably not even reached his third season and who knows what would have happened.

It is of course a different world now ( and even then Scoular can be considered lucky not many manager survived two successive 20th positions.

Oh and a lot of the football was dross as well.

I have a lot of sympathy with the view Craig Bellamy expressed that manager needed to be given time but I am afraid that is Utopia

Maybe if Scoular has been sacked in the mid-60s we would have got a manager in that could get us promoted. Why is Scoular a legend but Dave Jones is a miserable sod with no plan B?

[Splott-light...]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

Nathan Blake

Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos

Public Enemy or Sepultura..?

[NYCBlue]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

I'm not behind Harris, but I'm also not in favor of sacking him until we find a valid long-term replacement. Having said that, I still think that almost any manager we could hire would get better results than Harris for the remainder of the season. I honestly think I could have done better over the last 6 games. It is actually a mathematical certainty that in terms of points gained, I could not have done worse.

[Bobby Dandruff]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

I'm not behind Harris, but I'm also not in favor of sacking him until we find a valid long-term replacement. Having said that, I still think that almost any manager we could hire would get better results than Harris for the remainder of the season. I honestly think I could have done better over the last 6 games. It is actually a mathematical certainty that in terms of points gained, I could not have done worse.

Lol

[Elwood Blues]

Re: So, is anybody still behind Harris?

Maybe if Scoular has been sacked in the mid-60s we would have got a manager in that could get us promoted. Why is Scoular a legend but Dave Jones is a miserable sod with no plan B?

Yes Maybe. Or maybe we would have been relegated sooner and not had three years in the late 60's early 70's where we challenged for promotion. We may not have reached the European Cup Winners Cup final or had one of the greatest nights in our history when we beat Real Madrid. We shall never know.

When Scoular was a manager there was not the same spotlight on managers. They were not expected to be media savvy. Also of course as I said we had those great nights in Europe under him. That opportunity wasn't there for Dave Jones.

As we can see with all our managers in recent years the media spotlight and the internet expose their flaws Dave Jones didn't always come over as particularly media or fan friendly.

Scoular came across to fans as a tough no nonsense competitor and in his middle years at least the fans respected him greatly Thi is probably why he went on longer than he probably should have.