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  • Re: Brennan Johnson

    Originally posted by dembethewarrior View Post
    :hehe:
    Where is Ampadu now? ( Yes i know, Google it :hehe:)

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    • Re: Brennan Johnson

      Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
      Where is Ampadu now? ( Yes i know, Google it :hehe:)
      I know he's in Italy but not sure what team, possibly spezia or something like that.

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      • Re: Brennan Johnson

        Ampadu's a good player who's been messed around a little bit by Chelsea. I'm pretty confident he'll still end up a top 6 PL player, but it will probably take him leaving Chelsea

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        • Re: Brennan Johnson

          Originally posted by Tito Fuente View Post
          I remember Ampadu having an immense game against Spurs when he played for Leipzig.

          I really thought that he had something about him judging on that performance.

          It's strange how he hasn't seemed to push on from there considering it was a few years ago.
          That's the only game I have seen him play where he has been surrounded by top class players in a well-coached team.

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          • Re: Brennan Johnson

            Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
            That's the only game I have seen him play where he has been surrounded by top class players in a well-coached team.
            Why hasn't it happened since?

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            • Re: Brennan Johnson

              Originally posted by City123 View Post
              Ampadu's a good player who's been messed around a little bit by Chelsea. I'm pretty confident he'll still end up a top 6 PL player, but it will probably take him leaving Chelsea
              Nobody would look good in any of the teams he has been loaned to, but he still manages to look half decent. Until he plays in a proper team we will never know how good (or bad) he is.

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              • Re: Brennan Johnson

                Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                Nobody would look good in any of the teams he has been loaned to, but he still manages to look half decent. Until he plays in a proper team we will never know how good (or bad) he is.
                That's completely the wrong way round, it doesn't work like that. Players can still show their ability and class in a poor outfit. He isn't good enough for the highest level of football.

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                • Re: Brennan Johnson

                  Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                  That's completely the wrong way round, it doesn't work like that. Players can still show their ability and class in a poor outfit. He isn't good enough for the highest level of football.
                  You need good movement off the ball from the other players to do that, people who can see 3 or 4 moves ahead, otherwise a move invariably breaks down and you are back under pressure. The Leipzig v Spurs game is a good example of that. Nobody will ever look elite playing with a bunch of journeymen.

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                  • Re: Brennan Johnson

                    Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                    You need good movement off the ball from the other players to do that, people who can see 3 or 4 moves ahead, otherwise a move invariably breaks down and you are back under pressure. The Leipzig v Spurs game is a good example of that. Nobody will ever look elite playing with a bunch of journeymen.
                    So, in short, it's everyone else then, 'It's not me boss' Without being disrespectful, that is complete nonsense. I'm sure we could all list players who have gone on to compete at the highest level who started out playing with players who weren't very good,but those players showed enough for a bigger team to take a chance on them, something Ampadu hasn't been able to do, at the four or five clubs he's been at. Ability is ability, intelligence is intelligence, it shows through at whatever level a player is at, and more importantly, good football people at the highest level can spot it a mile off.

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                    • Re: Brennan Johnson

                      Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                      So, in short, it's everyone else then, 'It's not me boss' Without being disrespectful, that is complete nonsense. I'm sure we could all list players who have gone on to compete at the highest level who started out playing with players who weren't very good,but those players showed enough for a bigger team to take a chance on them, something Ampadu hasn't been able to do, at the four or five clubs he's been at. Ability is ability, intelligence is intelligence, it shows through at whatever level a player is at, and more importantly, good football people at the highest level can spot it a mile off.
                      You can look competent, but you will never look like a world beater. I blame the Chelsea loan system where they harvest and hoard young talent. Ampadu should have left Chelsea after the Sheffield United loan. I understand he is a lifelong Chelsea fan, so he may be in denial and that's why he has never tried to leave.

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                      • Re: Brennan Johnson

                        Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                        Nobody would look good in any of the teams he has been loaned to, but he still manages to look half decent. Until he plays in a proper team we will never know how good (or bad) he is.
                        People say that City have not produced any good players from their Academy in recent years and use the fact that no one we've released has come to much since leaving us as proof that they are right, but your logic says that's bollox doesn't it?

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                        • Re: Brennan Johnson

                          Originally posted by Wales-Bales View Post
                          That's the only game I have seen him play where he has been surrounded by top class players in a well-coached team.
                          Why didn't it happen in other games he played for Leipzig then?

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                          • Re: Brennan Johnson

                            Originally posted by the other bob wilson View Post
                            Why didn't it happen in other games he played for Leipzig then?
                            I recall that game, because WB was on here telling us all about Ampadu doing Harry Kane that evening, 'The Welsh Beckenbauer' as i recall, so i had a look. Ampadu was more 'Spare' than a spare tyre that had disconnected from a Ford Cortina on a journey along a country lane which had ended up in a hedge row. Ampadu struggles when he has to pick up runners, his focus is poor at times and his eyes follow the ball, bot the player, he gets sucked out and involved in situations where he has no business. I like the idea of everyone else being crap though, affecting my performance, i'm going to use that one today.... :hehe:

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                            • Re: Brennan Johnson

                              Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                              I recall that game, because WB was on here telling us all about Ampadu doing Harry Kane that evening, 'The Welsh Beckenbauer' as i recall, so i had a look. Ampadu was more 'Spare' than a spare tyre that had disconnected from a Ford Cortina on a journey along a country lane which had ended up in a hedge row. Ampadu struggles when he has to pick up runners, his focus is poor at times and his eyes follow the ball, bot the player, he gets sucked out and involved in situations where he has no business. I like the idea of everyone else being crap though, affecting my performance, i'm going to use that one today.... :hehe:
                              "Why didn't you finish that job today Demb"

                              "Rest of the lads are shit boss"

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                              • Re: Brennan Johnson

                                Originally posted by Tuerto View Post
                                So, in short, it's everyone else then, 'It's not me boss' Without being disrespectful, that is complete nonsense. I'm sure we could all list players who have gone on to compete at the highest level who started out playing with players who weren't very good,but those players showed enough for a bigger team to take a chance on them, something Ampadu hasn't been able to do, at the four or five clubs he's been at. Ability is ability, intelligence is intelligence, it shows through at whatever level a player is at, and more importantly, good football people at the highest level can spot it a mile off.
                                To be fair on Ampadu he's often been in limbo between Chelsea's firsts and being loaned out again which leads to rushed late moves. He went to Venezia late in the window because they'd stopped an earlier move to Newcastle as they wanted to play him only to decide they didn't. As far as I know he's performed well in Italy too

                                He's 22 with 40 caps for one of Wales' most successful sides and been a regular in the PL and Serie A. That's not bad going and I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up at a high level

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