Where Are We Going To Get Enough Points

[Pearcey3]

Re: Where Are We Going To Get Enough Points

We were a little better today but are defensively shambolic and our players are unfit and run out of steam after 60 minutes.
Hopefully Derby will have to sell key players next week and be unable to strengthen. Barnsley are dreadful. Posh poor. So here’s hoping that Derby, Barnsley and Posh go down but it’s three from five now and Reading and Cardiff are deep in the brown stuff.

[SunderlandBluebird]

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I think we’ll stay up by default but any other season we’d be gone.

If there hadn’t been any point deductions we’d be 5 points off safety which is pretty damning and this squad is nowhere near good enough to put a run of wins together at the moment.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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I don't see where we're getting a win from at this point. We do look better going forward but the defence is just as shambolic as it was under McCarthy

Good job we left it too late to get Wilder. Them waiting on Mick to turn it round was a farce, and has turned into a nightmare. After Sunday, our next league games are Barnsley and Peterborough. If we lose to Forest, I'd make a change. Someone that can organise a bloody back 4/5. We have to get 4 points from those two, minimum.

[the other bob wilson]

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We’ve got a lot of lower half sides to play yet at home. Under normal circumstances, that would offer us a buffer to rely on in the closing weeks of the season, but I remember saying something similar in 13/14 in the Premier League when our home form was far better than it is now. I’ve always thought that we’d eventually rediscover how to win at home and how to keep clean sheets and once we did, we’d be alright, but, after yesterday, I really do have my doubts about the clean sheet part - we’re going down if we play out the rest of the season needing to score two, or more, to win.

[Don Corleone]

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We’ve seemed obsessed recently with trying to work out a way of being better going forward but have not addressed the major issue of the defence which is getting worse. We need a few dull 0-0 draws and start picking up some points but have no faith we can keep a clean sheet

[Lawnmower]

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5-6 wins will probably be enough given how low the bar is this season.
Sooner the better !

[J R Hartley]

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5-6 wins will probably be enough given how low the bar is this season.
Sooner the better !

Be lucky to get 5/6 draws the way we are playing nevermind 5/6 wins

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Our remaining fixtures include Barnsley away, Peterborough home, Reading away and Derby home and away. We really need to be winning most of them (and not losing any).

[Pearcey3]

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If Derby lose more players next week or go under then I reckon as low as 40 points will be enough to stay up

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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A mathematical look:

48 points is the average number of points for survival since 1990. That would mean we need 25 from 20 games at 1.25 a game as opposed to our current rate of 0.88. That's nearly an increase of a third.

However, Barnsley can't buy a win and look doomed. Peterborough are getting worse results than us, losing 8 of their last 11, averaging 0.45 points a game. Derby are supposedly doomed with all the players they're supposed to be losing. Reading have lost 10 of their last 15 and, over that period, are averaging 0.6 points a game.

Morison has been in charge of us over a similar timescale as those used for Peterborough and Reading. We've lost 6 of the 12 league games he's taken but we've won 3. We're 6 without a win in the league but we're averaging a point a game under Morison.

Let's assume Peterborough and Reading continue their current form. Peterborough would finish on 28 points, Reading on 33. Goodness knows about Derby. They might not get to 40 points or even exist.

I reckon we could be looking at an all time low points tally. Only twice since 1990 has 41 been enough for survival. It's almost impossible to predict mathematically, but I reckon we could even be looking as low as the mid 30 points for survival, assuming Derby don't survive.

[City123]

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The fact we play Derby twice after the end of the window could be huge if they lose their key players

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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The fact we play Derby twice after the end of the window could be huge if they lose their key players

Could be huge if we beat them twice and they go bust as well.

[City123]

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Could be huge if we beat them twice and they go bust as well.

What do you mean? Wouldn't the results be irrelevant then?

Also if we beat them twice it means they'll have completed the league season anyway

[Eric the Half a Bee]

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What do you mean? Wouldn't the results be irrelevant then?

Also if we beat them twice it means they'll have completed the league season anyway

I understand their results would be scrubbed, but true about that possibility with them playing us last game. I'd forgotten about that.