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  • #31
    Re: Some brutal comments...

    I don't think the changes to the squad in recent months, and now during the window have made it necessarily stronger, just given us a few more options. To improve a squad you broadly speaking need to replace a player/position with someone better, so in overall strength terms, we're not. We're still probably the worst squad in the Championship apart from [presumably] Barnsley and Peterborough. Reading have an awful injury list which may well abate in the coming weeks, and directly above us are Hull, who ran Everton off the park for 75 minutes and look absolutely light years ahead of us in terms of pace, sharpness and energy. Back 3, back 4, back 5, yesterday all poor defending whatever the formation. But we're kidding ourselves if we think there's 'quality' enough in this squad. The football Gods have been with us this season though, and we hopefully can re-boot seriously in the summer.

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    • #32
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      Originally posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
      Bar a handful of them, Wales' striker being one of them, I'm not sure that's entirely true. I just think they're absolutely awful. I dont think they're not trying, they're just being badly used as well as not being good enough.
      I'm not saying that the players have stopped trying at the moment, but they downed tools on Harris last season and they clearly hated playing for McCarthy at the end of his tenure, so why won't they have a similar reaction to Morison if he keeps calling them out in public?

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      • #33
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        Originally posted by Father Dougal View Post
        I think the fear is there is a reason why managers very rarely come out and say their team don't care or aren't trying. The reason is players will not take kindly to being spoken about so publicly in that way.

        OK we can debate on a message board that it will give them a kick up the backside and their response will be "maybe he is right I must play better" the more likely response will be "what a kn0b, let's get him sacked". We see it time and time again don't we.

        As the difficulty now is if the same players come out and "prove him wrong" then what they are actually doing is proving him right that they weren't trying in the first place-but now they are. So it's difficult to see a way forward with it.

        Maybe Morison is right and every other successful manager is wrong of course when it comes to dealing with the media and keeping things in the dressing room but time will tell I guess?
        I think it’s unfair to say this team don’t care, we’ve seen fight backs aplenty and clear passion. Just the easy cop out isn’t it

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        • #34
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          Originally posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
          I'm not saying that the players have stopped trying at the moment, but they downed tools on Harris last season and they clearly hated playing for McCarthy at the end of his tenure, so why won't they have a similar reaction to Morison if he keeps calling them out in public?
          I have worked for some shit people in the past and have still put a "shift" in and done the best I can despite them - it's called personal integrity

          These players need to look themselves in the mirror as does Morison

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          • #35
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            I found his comments quite refreshing. Yes he is treading dangerous ground but he also needs to change the system and remove those players who aren't trying. Pack being top of my list.

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            • #36
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              Originally posted by EastbourneBlue View Post
              I think it’s unfair to say this team don’t care, we’ve seen fight backs aplenty and clear passion. Just the easy cop out isn’t it
              Exactly, he's just shifting the blame away from himself

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              • #37
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                He's had a sideways dig at Watters too, saying he scored a goal, but didn't do a lot more. I thought he made a couple of decent runs off the shoulder, but we just don't have anyone to pick the pass,

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                • #38
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                  Maybe the ultimate truth is Morison simply isn’t a very good manager even quite a bad one.Perhaps he just got lucky managing the most talented under 23s we had for a couple of decades and anyone with the most moderate level of competence would have done a similar job with them. He had some early success but this was possible down to new manager effect.

                  There seems to be general agreement he is picking the wrong team using the wrong tactics and making the wrong subsistutions not to mention the unwise comments after the game. To make matters worse now he is failing he seems to be doubling down on his mistakes and going back to the experienced players who got us into this mess in the first place.

                  To be honest can’t really think of any obvious replacement.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Some brutal comments...

                    Originally posted by Butterwick Blue View Post
                    He's had a sideways dig at Watters too, saying he scored a goal, but didn't do a lot more. I thought he made a couple of decent runs off the shoulder, but we just don't have anyone to pick the pass,

                    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-city-22844237
                    He'll talk himself out of a job

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                    • #40
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                      He’s right. It’s probably what most fans and managers think.

                      But regardless he shouldn’t be saying that in a press conference.

                      Weird

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                      • #41
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                        Originally posted by Bald Barry Bastad View Post
                        I found his comments quite refreshing. Yes he is treading dangerous ground but he also needs to change the system and remove those players who aren't trying. Pack being top of my list.
                        Turning everyone against each other isn’t going to do anyone favours

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by EastbourneBlue View Post
                          I think it’s unfair to say this team don’t care, we’ve seen fight backs aplenty and clear passion. Just the easy cop out isn’t it
                          It's not that they don't care, no doubt they do; they're just not good enough. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

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                          • #43
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                            Originally posted by Shrewsbury Blue View Post
                            Maybe the ultimate truth is Morison simply isn’t a very good manager even quite a bad one.Perhaps he just got lucky managing the most talented under 23s we had for a couple of decades and anyone with the most moderate level of competence would have done a similar job with them. He had some early success but this was possible down to new manager effect.

                            There seems to be general agreement he is picking the wrong team using the wrong tactics and making the wrong subsistutions not to mention the unwise comments after the game. To make matters worse now he is failing he seems to be doubling down on his mistakes and going back to the experienced players who got us into this mess in the first place.

                            To be honest can’t really think of any obvious replacement.
                            He's been promoted way beyond his current ability. Coaching under-23s football is completely different to managing in the Championship.

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