Colwill

[LeningradCowboy]

Re: Colwill

Having both Pack and Vaulks on the bench but not Colwill is a bit odd. How often are we going to want to bring on two central midfielders?

[jon1959]

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Having both Pack and Vaulks on the bench but not Colwill is a bit odd. How often are we going to want to bring on two central midfielders?

I think he has had an illness recently (Covid?). He played in the u23 game against Swansea last week and wasn't back to his sharpest.

Maybe it is just a case of managing a young player, taking him out of the firing line, and giving him time to get back to full fitness?

He will be a major player for us for years to come.

[Rjk]

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We should never had been so reliant on academy players. The way to bring them through is with appearances from the bench and the occasional start. The squad as a whole looks stronger now, and it was good to see Davies come on and score yesterday. Hopefully we'll see more of that between now and the end of the season for him, Harris, Colwill and Bagan.
Then who knows what happens in the summer.

I guess Mick McCarthy would have liked to have had the opportunity to sign more players, but we are where we are.

if we end the season with McGuiness a first team regular and Harris, Davies, Colwill and Bagan as squad players that has to be seen as a positive in terms of youth development imo

[Gnojek]

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Pretty sure McGuinness was a free transfer? That one's definitely gone under the radar, as I'd say he's already a first-team regular. I wasn't a fan of MM but that was a great bit of business.

[Rjk]

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Pretty sure McGuinness was a free transfer? That one's definitely gone under the radar, as I'd say he's already a first-team regular. I wasn't a fan of MM but that was a great bit of business.

I heard 200k (on here)

[Gnojek]

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Ah ok, thanks. Got that wrong. Still a snip at that some sort of money.

[delmbox]

Re: Colwill

I think he has had an illness recently (Covid?). He played in the u23 game against Swansea last week and wasn't back to his sharpest.

Maybe it is just a case of managing a young player, taking him out of the firing line, and giving him time to get back to full fitness?

He will be a major player for us for years to come.

Reading between the lines, Kieffer gave him Covid. Jesus it just doesn't end with that guy

[City123]

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Reading between the lines, Kieffer gave him Covid. Jesus it just doesn't end with that guy

Yet to see any evidence that says Kieffer didn't invent Covid, the scoundrel

[WJ99mobile]

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Semantics. It’s plain for all to see Colwills game time has got progressively less under Morison, to the point he’s now not even in the match day squad.

Just what is the point in our own academy if you’re going to loan players from other teams academy’s. Must be soul destroying for these lads.

I hope they get as far away from the club as possible for their own futures.

Stay up with imports or go down with our own kids

[Rjk]

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Stay up with imports or go down with our own kids

I think we will still try to bring the kids through, but as Steve Morison said, they are much more likely to shine being gradually weaned into a side that is playing well, than being expected to bear the brunt of a relegation battle.
he brought Davies on, fairly early on Sunday, and he scored what turned out to be the winning goal, and looked lively. that's won't have done him any harm at all.

[logic]

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Stay up with imports or go down with our own kids

Logic would indicate the "means to an end" approach is short sighted, in exactly the same way Warnock's signings were.

We've a manager who briefly ran the u23s claiming to provide a pathway to the first team. That pathway has virtually disappeared; Davies will get sub appearances, we've signed Hugill, a lump, recalled Watters, Harris is still around too.

Sang overlooked on the bench for Pack and Vaulks. Bowen is still injured or I'd assume he'd have been loaned out. Bagan has been binned.

The question is if Morison believes the kids aren't good enough or if he's merely being expedient to keep his job. It does appear to me that the usage of the kids reduced after Bellamy gave interviews bigging them up.

[2b2bdoo]

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Logic would indicate the "means to an end" approach is short sighted, in exactly the same way Warnock's signings were.

We've a manager who briefly ran the u23s claiming to provide a pathway to the first team. That pathway has virtually disappeared; Davies will get sub appearances, we've signed Hugill, a lump, recalled Watters, Harris is still around too.

Sang overlooked on the bench for Pack and Vaulks. Bowen is still injured or I'd assume he'd have been loaned out. Bagan has been binned.

The question is if Morison believes the kids aren't good enough or if he's merely being expedient to keep his job. It does appear to me that the usage of the kids reduced after Bellamy gave interviews bigging them up.

Or he just thinks they need more game time knowing they will need to be used next season when a lot of players are out of contract.
I’d prefer the likes of Evans to go out and get game time week after week than sit on the bench to be honest.

[The Hooded Claw]

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For once, I think the club is doing the right thing:
- bringing in loans with game experience and/or a culture of playing a passing game, which in turn takes the pressure off our younger players and offers a better chance of staying in the division.
- not throwing the Kieffer money at the first thing they see, so it can (hopefully) be used sensibly in the summer, by whomever is our manager and in the light of whichever division we’re playing in.

With there being a major rebuild coming in the summer, maybe it’s sensible not to burn out our academy boys.

So whilst I’d love to see more of our homegrown lads in the line-up, I see that as having a plan - for the short term and hopefully longer term, the academy players will become the backbone of our team.

[jon1959]

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Logic would indicate the "means to an end" approach is short sighted, in exactly the same way Warnock's signings were.

We've a manager who briefly ran the u23s claiming to provide a pathway to the first team. That pathway has virtually disappeared; Davies will get sub appearances, we've signed Hugill, a lump, recalled Watters, Harris is still around too.

Sang overlooked on the bench for Pack and Vaulks. Bowen is still injured or I'd assume he'd have been loaned out. Bagan has been binned.

The question is if Morison believes the kids aren't good enough or if he's merely being expedient to keep his job. It does appear to me that the usage of the kids reduced after Bellamy gave interviews bigging them up.

Fair comment on Sang but Bagan was on the bench on Sunday (not 'binned') and Bowen was in the u23 team against Swansea last week, coming back to full fitness (and into the first team squad).

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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if we end the season with McGuiness a first team regular and Harris, Davies, Colwill and Bagan as squad players that has to be seen as a positive in terms of youth development imo

I agree