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Yes. I'm not sure if Jones tried to sign him around the same time as we ended up with Willo Flood.Originally posted by Hilts View Posthttps://www-bbc-co-uk.cdn.ampproject...rom%20%251%24s
Werent we strongly linked with him about 10 years ago?
Malky had a bid of £2m accepted for him in 2011 as he tried to turn us into Scotland's B team. Think he went somewhere else at the last minute, Rangers maybe? We ended up with Kenny Miller.
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Blackburn I thinkOriginally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View PostYes. I'm not sure if Jones tried to sign him around the same time as we ended up with Willo Flood.
Malky had a bid of £2m accepted for him in 2011 as he tried to turn us into Scotland's B team. Think he went somewhere else at the last minute, Rangers maybe? We ended up with Kenny Miller.
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"Denise Clair said she was raped by Goodwillie and another player at a flat in Armadale, West Lothian, in 2011 after a night out in nearby Bathgate.
Both Goodwillie and Dundee United player David Robertson accepted that they had sex with her but maintained it was consensual."
No criminal charges?
Wasn't Ched Evans cleared after admitting consensual sex when the woman claimed rape?
I am not defending him before the usual doo gooder brigade lump on me, but I can't see where he was convicted or admitted to anything?
Jessica Ennis Hill had enough to say about Evans too, nothing after he was cleared though, funnily enough. To my knowledge no apology from her once he was cleared..
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He was found guilty in a civil trial. Rape is notoriously difficult to prove and 96% don't make it to criminal trials.Originally posted by dembethewarrior View Post?
"Denise Clair said she was raped by Goodwillie and another player at a flat in Armadale, West Lothian, in 2011 after a night out in nearby Bathgate.
Both Goodwillie and Dundee United player David Robertson accepted that they had sex with her but maintained it was consensual."
No criminal charges?
Wasn't Ched Evans cleared after admitting consensual sex when the woman claimed rape?
I am not defending him before the usual doo gooder brigade lump on me, but I can't see where he was convicted or admitted to anything?
Jessica Ennis Hill had enough to say about Evans too, nothing after he was cleared though, funnily enough. To my knowledge no apology from her once he was cleared..
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I'm no fan of ennis, but interested as to why you think Evans deserved an apology. His actions were a disgraceOriginally posted by dembethewarrior View Post?
"Denise Clair said she was raped by Goodwillie and another player at a flat in Armadale, West Lothian, in 2011 after a night out in nearby Bathgate.
Both Goodwillie and Dundee United player David Robertson accepted that they had sex with her but maintained it was consensual."
No criminal charges?
Wasn't Ched Evans cleared after admitting consensual sex when the woman claimed rape?
I am not defending him before the usual doo gooder brigade lump on me, but I can't see where he was convicted or admitted to anything?
Jessica Ennis Hill had enough to say about Evans too, nothing after he was cleared though, funnily enough. To my knowledge no apology from her once he was cleared..
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Because he didn't commit rape.Originally posted by chrisp_1927 View PostI'm no fan of ennis, but interested as to why you think Evans deserved an apology. His actions were a disgrace
She babbled on about a rapist being at the club blah blah. Said nothing when he was cleared, as far as I can see.
The fact him and a mate have had sex with a girl at the same time though may not be whatnot call perfect behaviour from a public figure, but its hardly a disgrace, happens in every town and village up and down the country where people have sex with more than one person. Its not just in them xxx videos
He deserved an apology for the way she came out and spoke about him.
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I don’t want to go through this for the 1000 time but she was too pissed to walk. He snuck in through the fire escape of a hotel and started shagging her while his mate already was.Originally posted by dembethewarrior View PostBecause he didn't commit rape.
She babbled on about a rapist being at the club blah blah. Said nothing when he was cleared, as far as I can see.
The fact him and a mate have had sex with a girl at the same time though may not be whatnot call perfect behaviour from a public figure, but its hardly a disgrace, happens in every town and village up and down the country where people have sex with more than one person. Its not just in them xxx videos
He deserved an apology for the way she came out and spoke about him.
No one thinks the threesome is the bad part of it.
Im not saying whether he’s a rapist or not but I can see why he was charged initially and I can see why people who know the circumstances still think they wouldn’t want him at the club.
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so much for Scottish law
Criminal convictions and rape judgment
In June 2008, Goodwillie was convicted of assaulting a man in a Stirling nightclub,[62] and was fined £250.[63]
In September 2009 Goodwillie was arrested after a nightclub doorman was knocked unconscious.[64] Two months later, Goodwillie was convicted of assault and received a £200 fine.[65][66]
In 2012, Goodwillie was convicted of assault for striking John Friel after the latter had launched an unprovoked attack from behind on Goodwillie's teammate Danny Swanson at a late-night takeaway in Glasgow in 2010.[67] He was sentenced to a 12-month probation order and to carry out 80 hours of unpaid work.[67] Friel was ordered to carry out 240 hours of unpaid work for his part in the incident.[67]
Goodwillie and David Robertson, who was then a teammate of Goodwillie, were accused of committing rape in January 2011.[68] Goodwillie was charged with rape, but the Scottish legal authorities decided not to pursue a criminal prosecution.[68] The complainer instead took civil action against Goodwillie and Robertson, whom the judge ruled to be rapists,[68] ordering them to pay £100,000 in compensation.[68] The civil case was judged on the balance of probabilities and did not need corroboration of evidence, unlike in a Scottish criminal case.[68] Goodwillie left his club, Plymouth Argyle, soon after the case concluded.[39] A club statement said that Goodwillie had asked to leave as he was considering an appeal.[39] In November 2017, three appeal judges at the Court of Session upheld the ruling.[69]
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