Rugger

[Des Parrot]

Re: Rugger

Genuinely didn’t know Wales were playing.

[Pearcey3]

Re: Rugger

I think a lot of you have a highly romanticised boyhood memory from the 70's. There were plenty of shite games back then too

Spot on and often the great expansive rugby the Welsh teams played didn’t happen until late on in games when they had worn down the opposition upfront.

[Pearcey3]

Re: Rugger

Genuinely didn’t know Wales were playing.

Nor did the players

[Gofer Blue]

Re: Rugger

Unfortunately, as fit as the modern players are today when compared to early times, I doubt if they could play the full 80 minutes without the benefit of the many, many breaks in play that they currently enjoy!

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think your living in cloud cuckoo land if you really believe that ![/QUOTE]

Today's players are far fitter than those of the 60's and 70's thanks to extensive training/coaching, attention to diet etc. We won't really ever know will we, unless they are put to the test.

"Research published in an IRB report in 2011 showed that of the 80 minutes in a rugby game, the ball would, on average, be in play for only 35 minutes. Shockingly, 35 minutes was a huge improvement from the amount of action time that games used to average in 1991, which was a dismal 25 minutes".*

So things have improved apparently which I find difficult to believe, but there it is!!

*Source: https://atroxrugby.com/how-long-is-a-rugby-game/

[Hilts]

Re: Rugger

Pile on loads of muscle and be well above your normal weight is going to effect your cardio.

Most if not all those players wouldn't cope witn 80 mins genuine play. Limit the number of subs make them actually play 80 minutes and then you may see something other than 30 bodybuilders smashing into each other.

[Hilts]

Re: Rugger

I was talking to someone who knows Isaak Davies in the week. Said he played rugby for a while. Apparently as soon as he got the ball that was it Try.

[MOZZER2]

Re: Rugger

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think your living in cloud cuckoo land if you really believe that !

Today's players are far fitter than those of the 60's and 70's thanks to extensive training/coaching, attention to diet etc. We won't really ever know will we, unless they are put to the test.

"Research published in an IRB report in 2011 showed that of the 80 minutes in a rugby game, the ball would, on average, be in play for only 35 minutes. Shockingly, 35 minutes was a huge improvement from the amount of action time that games used to average in 1991, which was a dismal 25 minutes".*

So things have improved apparently which I find difficult to believe, but there it is!!

*Source: https://atroxrugby.com/how-long-is-a-rugby-game/[/QUOTE]

sorry i don't buy that as the laws of the game has changed from the 70's to counter act that argument . The sheer power and strength of these elite players are for all to see . There are always stoppages in rugby you will never change that so players are not required to be in play for the full 80 minutes and remember you very rarely seen a sub come onto the field of play in the 70's either !

https://blog.betway.com/rugby/the-remarkable-evolution-of-the-modern-day-rugby-player/

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Rugger

Today's players are far fitter than those of the 60's and 70's thanks to extensive training/coaching, attention to diet etc. We won't really ever know will we, unless they are put to the test.

"Research published in an IRB report in 2011 showed that of the 80 minutes in a rugby game, the ball would, on average, be in play for only 35 minutes. Shockingly, 35 minutes was a huge improvement from the amount of action time that games used to average in 1991, which was a dismal 25 minutes".*

So things have improved apparently which I find difficult to believe, but there it is!!

*Source: https://atroxrugby.com/how-long-is-a-rugby-game/

sorry i don't buy that as the laws of the game has changed from the 70's to counter act that argument . The sheer power and strength of these elite players are for all to see . There are always stoppages in rugby you will never change that so players are not required to be in play for the full 80 minutes and remember you very rarely seen a sub come onto the field of play in the 70's either !

https://blog.betway.com/rugby/the-re...-rugby-player/[/QUOTE]

And as the player get fitter, the entertainment levels get lower. Players were bound to get fitter and stronger when the game went full time and, with the human race getting noticeably taller and generally bigger in the last fifty years or so, the rugby pitch has become too small. When you see some of the passes given by front row and second row forwards are of a quality you’d very rarely see in the seventies in Wales “golden era”, so I don’t think the skill levels are inferior by any means, but it all still makes for a dull spectacle in my opinion. From being a real fan of the game, I’ve become more of a casual observer of it now and, while the devotees will say the game is better now, I think others will feel much like I do.

[NYCBlue]

Re: Rugger

"Rugger"? Are you English?

[Alan Lung]

Re: Rugger

"Rugger"? Are you English?

I was thinking that.

[Its been emotional]

Re: Rugger

I was taking the piste
Woooooosh

[Alan Lung]

Re: Rugger

I was taking the piste
Woooooosh

Everyone says that when they have been found out.

[chrisp_1927]

Re: Rugger

That Lions tour in the summer meant rugby had taken further step in the process of me losing the love I had of the game before it went professional - Wales conceded their third try in the two minutes I watched of their game. However, it was the last few minutes I caught of the Scotland v England game which reminded me why I’m barely interested in the sport any more as all but a few seconds were taken up by a scrum - I watched it because I wanted to see if Scotland could beat them again, but,the World Cup coming up next year really needs more than what the game has become at its top levels if it is to get enough people interested in it for it to truly become a world game.

Agree about the impact constant reset scrums have, probably the biggest blight on the entertainment.

It's really struck me recently how it seems to have been eliminated from the game. Been surprised that at both club and international level they have really sorted the scrum situation out.
I Was really angry with the referee for bottling it there . 3 out of the 4 resets were blatant England penalties, but he bottled them because of the game situation. He's undone a lot of the good work done by rugby in general , by not having the guts to make a decision

[Ivortheengine]

Re: Rugger

Wales full team won’t do very well this time round. The Under -20’s got crushed in Cork on Friday night. There is no one of much promise coming through.To top it all, the four regions are under achieving. Compare that with what’s going on across the Irish Sea. They beat the All Blacks again recently. The 4 regions have all qualified for the next round of the European Cup, and the youngsters are showing lots of promise for the future. That’s all you need to know.