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  • #31
    Re: Transport for Wales

    Originally posted by Trigger View Post
    We already get back more than we put in.

    Some places in the UK barely have an adequate bus service.
    No point in this thread or any complaints ever then, somebody always has it worse. I always hear the "somewhere else has it worse", I can't imagine people in the NE give a shit about under investment in Wales? Also when all companies HQ are based in London of course the output of Wales is going to look shite. What significant investment has Wales ever had? Apart from maybe the M4 decades ago. The only things every built here were to extract wealth as quickly and efficiently as possible.

    I would rather the Welsh gov waste 5 billion in Wales if it gives jobs and opportunities to people here rather than not have it at all, Westminster waste enough on a daily basis, I don't see their tap being turned off.

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    • #32
      Re: Transport for Wales

      Originally posted by Wozza16 View Post
      No point in this thread or any complaints ever then, somebody always has it worse. I always hear the "somewhere else has it worse", I can't imagine people in the NE give a shit about under investment in Wales? Also when all companies HQ are based in London of course the output of Wales is going to look shite. What significant investment has Wales ever had? Apart from maybe the M4 decades ago. The only things every built here were to extract wealth as quickly and efficiently as possible.

      I would rather the Welsh gov waste 5 billion in Wales if it gives jobs and opportunities to people here rather than not have it at all, Westminster waste enough on a daily basis, I don't see their tap being turned off.
      We have more than the 5 billion though, we have along with NI the highest deficit per person.

      We do ok out of the Union. How its spent in Wales is the bigger problem.

      So much waste on lots of things, many of them "small" but all add up.

      How much was wasted on endless feasibility studies into the m4 relief road only to cancel it after an election.

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      • #33
        Re: Transport for Wales

        Originally posted by Trigger View Post
        We have more than the 5 billion though, we have along with NI the highest deficit per person.

        We do ok out of the Union. How its spent in Wales is the bigger problem.

        So much waste on lots of things, many of them "small" but all add up.

        How much was wasted on endless feasibility studies into the m4 relief road only to cancel it after an election.
        There is a huge difference between money for health, pensions and welfare - which we get more than England proportionally and money invested in infrastructure of which we have always had far less

        The union has kept us the poorest part of the UK and it always will.

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        • #34
          Re: Transport for Wales

          'Will not use again until it’s finally corrected to a standard a paying customer deserves," said one Wales fan who headed to Cardiff for the Nations League match against Belgium


          Football fans who headed from north Wales to Cardiff for a Nations League match have branded the train service a "disgrace" amid scenes of overcrowding.

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          • #35
            Re: Transport for Wales

            Been rebranded as Transport Not Fit For Wales .

            They talk up environmental concerns well why not just fund the essentials of life forget extravagant gestures like living wage's , expanding the the membership of WAG .

            Sell some of thier extensive properties off in Wales and abroad.

            Welsh Government has a total of 18 core and operational offices across Wales. It has offices based in Westminster.

            Additionally, it has 7 specialist properties across Wales, which include stores, traffic management centres and the pavilion at the Royal Welsh Showground.

            The Government also has 21 offices located in 11 countries outside the United Kingdom: Belgium; Canada; China; France; Germany; Ireland; India; Japan; Qatar; United Arab Emirates, and the United States of America.[11]

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            • #36
              Re: Transport for Wales

              Originally posted by Hilts View Post
              The lack of HGV drivers has had a big effect.

              Pay for bus drivers is sh!t and they are retraining as HGV drivers.

              Result the bus services have deteriorated.
              Chat with DVLA maybe Mr Drakeford can unlock the issue ??

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              • #37
                Re: Transport for Wales

                Originally posted by Trigger View Post
                We have more than the 5 billion though, we have along with NI the highest deficit per person.

                We do ok out of the Union. How its spent in Wales is the bigger problem.

                So much waste on lots of things, many of them "small" but all add up.

                How much was wasted on endless feasibility studies into the m4 relief road only to cancel it after an election.
                18 billion in fact .

                We should just spend it on health to save lives we have more beds per head that England ,transport as it provides jobs makes Wales attractive to invest into.

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                • #38
                  Re: Transport for Wales

                  Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                  Been rebranded as Transport Not Fit For Wales .

                  They talk up environmental concerns well why not just fund the essentials of life forget extravagant gestures like living wage's , expanding the the membership of WAG .

                  Sell some of thier extensive properties off in Wales and abroad.

                  Welsh Government has a total of 18 core and operational offices across Wales. It has offices based in Westminster.

                  Additionally, it has 7 specialist properties across Wales, which include stores, traffic management centres and the pavilion at the Royal Welsh Showground.

                  The Government also has 21 offices located in 11 countries outside the United Kingdom: Belgium; Canada; China; France; Germany; Ireland; India; Japan; Qatar; United Arab Emirates, and the United States of America.[11]
                  Am I reading this correctly? You consider the living wage to be an extravagant gesture?

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                  • #39
                    Re: Transport for Wales

                    Originally posted by Trigger View Post
                    How much was wasted on endless feasibility studies into the m4 relief road only to cancel it after an election.
                    But isn't the point of a feasibility study to see if something is feasible? Funny how they're only a waste of money if that study results in a cancellation of the idea or proposal.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Transport for Wales

                      Originally posted by life on mars View Post

                      The Government also has 21 offices located in 11 countries outside the United Kingdom: Belgium; Canada; China; France; Germany; Ireland; India; Japan; Qatar; United Arab Emirates, and the United States of America.[11]
                      Other than the office in Belgium, the WG’s overseas offices are based with British Embassies, Consulates and High Commissions. I’m sure they’re looking at the wider estate in Wales given the numbers still working at home - not that it’d make much difference/raise significant funds.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Transport for Wales

                        Originally posted by Eric Cartman View Post
                        Am I reading this correctly? You consider the living wage to be an extravagant gesture?
                        Yes there are vacancies everywhere WAG should concentrate on improving people's lives not paying someone not too where In inspiration to aspire if you pay someone to not work .

                        I'm not talking about benefits but schemes announced recently to just pay 18 year old a good wage or support them in work is surely a jwhere they benefit and inspire not staying at home.

                        Aspiration is important.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Transport for Wales

                          Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                          For the second time in as many weeks, the now only hourly Cardiff Bay service is cancelled at the last minute..as is the one after it. Dozens stranded, women walking into town in the dark, no announcements whatsoever...

                          It's unbelievable how bad it is.

                          Why do we put up with this shit in Wales?
                          It's beyond hilarious you've failed to mention the decades of privatisation in our train system before this. TFW ordered new trains as soon as possible once they were in charge. What else can they do? Just magic up train and staff?

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                          • #43
                            Re: Transport for Wales

                            Originally posted by Doucas View Post
                            It's beyond hilarious you've failed to mention the decades of privatisation in our train system before this. TFW ordered new trains as soon as possible once they were in charge. What else can they do? Just magic up train and staff?
                            Much of the problem was with the previous franchise with ATW. Both Welsh Government and ATW didn't expect a great deal of growth in passenger numbers. Passenger numbers did grow, quite substantially in some areas, but there were no plans during the length of the franchise to accommodate the higher numbers.

                            If a bus operator wants to increase services they can train new bus drivers in a few weeks and purchase new or second hand buses relatively easily. If a train operator wants to increase services, they may need to train new drivers on routes - some routes need many months or more than a year to learn. Picking up new or second hand trains is virtually impossible.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Transport for Wales

                              Originally posted by life on mars View Post
                              Yes there are vacancies everywhere WAG should concentrate on improving people's lives not paying someone not too where In inspiration to aspire if you pay someone to not work .

                              I'm not talking about benefits but schemes announced recently to just pay 18 year old a good wage or support them in work is surely a jwhere they benefit and inspire not staying at home.

                              Aspiration is important.
                              I've read this through a few times and I have no idea what you're on about.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Transport for Wales

                                Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                                I've read this through a few times and I have no idea what you're on about.
                                Not my problem .

                                Just think government should fund people to go to work and subsidy or fund business to take those that at a low point or disadvantaged in some way ..

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