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  • #31
    Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

    Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
    We should, but we rarely are, so it just comes across as marketing gumf.

    I think The Millennium Stadium is world class, at least in some aspects. The civic centre also. Bute Park would grace any world city and Cardiff Castle would be one of the crowns of any city. Possibly the WMC may be considered a world class opera venue too?

    We don't do bad, but I think we think we are a more significant city than we actually are sometimes.
    we are a small city in a backwater part of a diminishing former power.
    we punch above our weight for sporting venues, and castles, but are decidedly average in a lot of other areas, as you'd probably expect for a city of this size, in a relatively poorer part of the country.

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    • #32
      Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

      Give me Astey's, smelly public toilets and easy access to the 44/45 bus stop any day of the week ! In reality, the station area badly needed modernising but subtle it is not. Still at least I have my memories.

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      • #33
        Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        We should, but we rarely are, so it just comes across as marketing gumf.

        I think The Millennium Stadium is world class, at least in some aspects. The civic centre also. Bute Park would grace any world city and Cardiff Castle would be one of the crowns of any city. Possibly the WMC may be considered a world class opera venue too?

        We don't do bad, but I think we think we are a more significant city than we actually are sometimes.
        Ask Splott Parker about his thoughts about visitors arriving in our City by coach !!!!

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        • #34
          Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

          Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
          Give me Astey's, smelly public toilets and easy access to the 44/45 bus stop any day of the week ! In reality, the station area badly needed modernising but subtle it is not. Still at least I have my memories.
          Miss pasty & chips in Astey’s :thumbup:

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          • #35
            Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

            Cardiff is trying to gentrify itself . The bay was the start of it . The city elders talk about cardiff being a major European city ......but its not . Berlin , Amsterdam , Manchester , Liverpool , Glasgow yes .

            I think the main claim to fame is that 3 times a year loads of people get completely rat arsed for the rugby and finish the evening wetting themselves and scoffing kebabs .

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            • #36
              Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

              Originally posted by BLUETIT View Post
              Miss pasty & chips in Astey’s :thumbup:
              In truth I used the kiosk outside the toilets more often than Astey's but I liked the building itself and of course the stuffed bear.

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              • #37
                Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                Cardiff is trying to gentrify itself . The bay was the start of it . The city elders talk about cardiff being a major European city ......but its not . Berlin , Amsterdam , Manchester , Liverpool , Glasgow yes .

                I think the main claim to fame is that 3 times a year loads of people get completely rat arsed for the rugby and finish the evening wetting themselves and scoffing kebabs .
                What do you think Cardiff's ambition levels should be then?

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                • #38
                  Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

                  Not sure if I agree that Liverpool is a major European city. If it wasn't for the Beatles and and their high profile football time, Liverpool would be just another nondescript northern city. Having said that I do love watching the Grand National, so maybe you're right !

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                  • #39
                    Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

                    Originally posted by Moodybluebird View Post
                    Not sure if I agree that Liverpool is a major European city. If it wasn't for the Beatles and and their high profile football time, Liverpool would be just another nondescript northern city. Having said that I do love watching the Grand National, so maybe you're right !
                    Liverpool is a major port city , has loads of culture . I suppose Cardiff is a mini Liverpool 🤔

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                    • #40
                      Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

                      Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                      Cardiff is trying to gentrify itself . The bay was the start of it . The city elders talk about cardiff being a major European city ......but its not . Berlin , Amsterdam , Manchester , Liverpool , Glasgow yes .

                      I think the main claim to fame is that 3 times a year loads of people get completely rat arsed for the rugby and finish the evening wetting themselves and scoffing kebabs .
                      why shouldn't it modernise?
                      I remember the bay before the redevelopment and it was ****ing awful.
                      we are a long way from being a major European city, mostly because of size, Berlin and Amsterdam are massively bigger.
                      Cardiff isn't quite big enough to support having both ends of town busy at the same time, so we get this cycle where one end is new and bustling and the other is rundown and depressing, then rinse and repeat a few years later.

                      we also have relatively few interesting historical buildings, due to the relatively late growth of the city, yes the castle is good, but most of the city was built post 1910.

                      I mean it's a nice enough place, but just a bit small time

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                      • #41
                        Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

                        Originally posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
                        What do you think Cardiff's ambition levels should be then?
                        I think it's punching above its weight already . It's needed a decent transport system like Newcastle for years . That would be a start .

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                        • #42
                          Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

                          The space between the station and BBC seems a little empty; perhaps it needs developing into a proper square. Might not need much. The buildings there are fine but I would like to see Cardiff get a modern iconic building or two.

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                          • #43
                            Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

                            Originally posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
                            The space between the station and BBC seems a little empty; perhaps it needs developing into a proper square. Might not need much. The buildings there are fine but I would like to see Cardiff get a modern iconic building or two.
                            An Opera House

                            Built by a forward thinking Iranian architect

                            Maybe not

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                            • #44
                              Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

                              Originally posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
                              The space between the station and BBC seems a little empty; perhaps it needs developing into a proper square. Might not need much. The buildings there are fine but I would like to see Cardiff get a modern iconic building or two.
                              Isn't the WMC modern or iconic enough, let alone one of the best stadiums in the world?
                              Once the buses are operating in outside the station again I think the area will be much more vibrant. People returning to offices again next month will also help.

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                              • #45
                                Re: BBC Wales Building Central Square

                                Originally posted by light up the darkness View Post
                                For me there are two separate issues. First Does the area outside the central station look better , more vibrant if you like. IMO Zoe’s it does

                                Would the building have been built with out BBC taking up the option. IMO . Yes it would have been because it’s a great location. Ask the HMRC staff if they prefer the centre or Llanishen.
                                I can categorically confirm that HMRC staff 100% preferred Llanishen.

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