Sala inquest concludes

[OurManFlint II]

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Do you know for certain that Sala was signing his contract in those photos? I'm never convinced that players are in these situations and it's just something staged for publicity, with his actual contract being signed somewhere else at another time.

The photo's has nothing to do with it, he was announced as a city player and the reason we are in the CAS court is we were found responsible for the fee by the governing body but we are challenging that decision on some technicality.

[Eric Cartman]

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I don't think either club has deviated from expected behaviour of a football club/business here. Looks like the McKay family are going to get away with it unfortunately, thankfully Tan is vindictive and this guy has multiple closets of skeletons, bankruptcy might be the least of his worries.

[Eric Cartman]

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The photo's has nothing to do with it, he was announced as a city player and the reason we are in the CAS court is we were found responsible for the fee by the governing body but we are challenging that decision on some technicality.

To do with registration wasn't it? Might be wrong but I am thinking of it like the whole transfer deadline day shenanigans, until 'the paperwork' is through with the league then the player hasn't moved. That might not be the clubs argument but it sounds like it to me. I don't have a scooby about the legal process behind this but many a deal has fallen through on deadline day because the paperwork wasn't in.

[The Bloop]

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The photo's has nothing to do with it, he was announced as a city player and the reason we are in the CAS court is we were found responsible for the fee by the governing body but we are challenging that decision on some technicality.

My reference to the photo was in response to Canton Kev, but yes I take your point. I think the technical point is regarding registration post signing as alluded to elsewhere.
Doesn't the CAS case revolve around the first installment though and not the whole fee?

[jon1959]

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My heart bleeds for him;-

https://www.thenational.wales/sport/...-sala-inquest/

Willie McKay's attempts to portray himself and his family as the victims in the aftermath of the crash are pathetic. As are his claims that he only arranged the flights for Emiliano Sala out of pure human kindness.

But I do wonder if his interest in staying close to the deal at that stage (and his big agent fee) is some evidence that the contract was not yet tied up, and that further revisions and fresh signatures were expected on Sala's return to Cardiff. I'm not sure if the inquest has established who paid for the flights - except that it was not Cardiff City. The only candidates are McKay himself (via his son Mark) or Nantes FC (surely not Sala's agent)?

McKay acts for self interest - he is not a charity.

[the other bob wilson]

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Willie McKay's attempts to portray himself and his family as the victims in the aftermath of the crash are pathetic. As are his claims that he only arranged the flights for Emiliano Sala out of pure human kindness.

But I do wonder if his interest in staying close to the deal at that stage (and his big agent fee) is some evidence that the contract was not yet tied up, and that further revisions and fresh signatures were expected on Sala's return to Cardiff. I'm not sure if the inquest has established who paid for the flights - except that it was not Cardiff City. The only candidates are McKay himself (via his son Mark) or Nantes FC (surely not Sala's agent)?

McKay acts for self interest - he is not a charity.

Yes, I’d not thought of thatJon. I’ve always tried to approach the point of that club website piece from the sort of dispassionate viewpoint a court or judge would and that only makes me think that they’d struggle to prove their innocence, but maybe you’re on to something there.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

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The photo's has nothing to do with it, he was announced as a city player and the reason we are in the CAS court is we were found responsible for the fee by the governing body but we are challenging that decision on some technicality.

An announcement is not a legally binding contract though.

[Canton Kev]

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I'm guessing by this that you think we should be paying the full transfer fee.

I honestly don’t know because I don’t know the full details of the court case. My point is this is a very complex case and can’t be simplified by comparing it to having a laptop delivered to your house.

[OurManFlint II]

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An announcement is not a legally binding contract though.

Yeah i know this, but that is not what we are challenging with CAS is it. What we are currently challenging in court, is the governing body over the contract, that said we are responsible. If nothing was signed i could represent the case*!

*i have 100% win rate in representing myself in court

[IanD]

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As I understand it, fee was agreed (albeit at a highly inflated price), contract signed and relevant paperwork to register Sala with PL was subsequently rejected. Sala died before the paperwork could be amended and returned to PL to complete his registration. City's case is pinned on the fact that he wasn't a registered PL player and therefore the deal wasn't complete so no payment should be made. Its a similar situation to buying a house. Solicitors exchange contracts but until completion you do not legally own the house you are buying.

[Rjk]

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As I understand it, fee was agreed (albeit at a highly inflated price), contract signed and relevant paperwork to register Sala with PL was subsequently rejected. Sala died before the paperwork could be amended and returned to PL to complete his registration. City's case is pinned on the fact that he wasn't a registered PL player and therefore the deal wasn't complete so no payment should be made. Its a similar situation to buying a house. Solicitors exchange contracts but until completion you do not legally own the house you are buying.

If that's the case then surely we're done, as it makes no bearing on Nantes whether we register him for any particular competition or not, the transfer fee is to release him from the contract at nantes isn't it? If he's signed a contract then he's our player isn't he?

[IanD]

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If that's the case then surely we're done, as it makes no bearing on Nantes whether we register him for any particular competition or not, the transfer fee is to release him from the contract at nantes isn't it? If he's signed a contract then he's our player isn't he?

That, I presume, is Nantes' point of view. City's lawyers could also argue that Nantes, their representatives (actual and implied) have failed to deliver the goods. McKay (the elder in particular) was keen to get his hands on his slice of the transfer money cake and, rather than waiting a day or two for a legit flight, used a dodgy operator to get Sala into Cardiff ASAP.

[The Lone Gunman]

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That, I presume, is Nantes' point of view. City's lawyers could also argue that Nantes, their representatives (actual and implied) have failed to deliver the goods. McKay (the elder in particular) was keen to get his hands on his slice of the transfer money cake and, rather than waiting a day or two for a legit flight, used a dodgy operator to get Sala into Cardiff ASAP.

You know Nantes have already won this case once? And that this is an appeal?

[IanD]

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You know Nantes have already won this case once? And that this is an appeal?

Yes...awaiting an outcome on the appeal to pay Nantes.

[dml1954]

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If that's the case then surely we're done, as it makes no bearing on Nantes whether we register him for any particular competition or not, the transfer fee is to release him from the contract at nantes isn't it? If he's signed a contract then he's our player isn't he?

But if the contract isn't completed, no money changes hands and the player remains the property of the seller.