Frank Lampard

[Rjk]

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Does anyone else follow 'Agent Lamps and 'Agent Rafa' on YouTube?

This guy's take offs of Lampard and Rafa never fail to get me smiling :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjnPhx1tYjo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ35KPcWIAY

I'll take your word for it, but generally
'banter' between premier League teams fans is just the worst.

[Hilts]

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To be fair to Lampard hes inherited a terrible squad. A back 4 of Coleman Keane Holgate Kenny is going to struggles in the Championship.

[splott parker]

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Can't get my head around top clubs who employ famous ex-players in the belief that they are destined to become great managers. Even Chelsea fell into that trap prior to getting Tuchel.

Yes Pep had a decent playing career but Klopp, Tuchel, Wenger, Ferguson etc etc er no.

There will always be exceptions to the rule but not many players follow up a stellar playing career by achieving top honours as a coach/manager.

In the past most of the great managers had been top players, Shankly, Busby, Clough, Nicholson, Mercer, Kendall, Dalglish, Venables, Ramsey etc. Things have definitely changed with technical advancements, the more studious types who’ve put coaching skills above all else have certainly changed the image of the manager.

[Wales-Bales]

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Can't get my head around top clubs who employ famous ex-players in the belief that they are destined to become great managers. Even Chelsea fell into that trap prior to getting Tuchel.

Yes Pep had a decent playing career but Klopp, Tuchel, Wenger, Ferguson etc etc er no.

There will always be exceptions to the rule but not many players follow up a stellar playing career by achieving top honours as a coach/manager.

Ferguson played for Rangers and he was the most expensive player in Scotland when he signed for them.

[splott parker]

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Ferguson played for Rangers and he was the most expensive player in Scotland when he signed for them.

Ferguson can be classed as being in the old system of employing ex pros, 36 years ago he joined Manchester United and that after a successful spell at Aberdeen. Started his managerial career in 1974 at East Stirling. He can hardly bracketed with Pep, Klopp, Tuchel etc.

[life on mars]

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Swap Lampard for Wazza

[Wales-Bales]

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Ferguson can be classed as being in the old system of employing ex pros, 36 years ago he joined Manchester United and that after a successful spell at Aberdeen. Started his managerial career in 1974 at East Stirling. He can hardly bracketed with Pep, Klopp, Tuchel etc.

I was commenting on him not having had a decent playing career, and by all accounts that's where he learnt how to handle players, after being poorly treated himself

[Mr Soul '68]

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I'll take your word for it, but generally
'banter' between premier League teams fans is just the worst.

It's not 'banter' between premier league teams fans at all. That too, would make me cringe. This is a very funny comedian Darren Farley taking off Lampard and Rafa

[Henry Hill]

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Pep, Conte, Ancelotti, Zidane, Mancini, Deschamps.

Xavi and Gerrard both had a decent start to their managerial careers. Viera and Arteta both doing well in the PL.

Plenty of top players still making good managers.

[Moodybluebird]

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In the past most of the great managers had been top players, Shankly, Busby, Clough, Nicholson, Mercer, Kendall, Dalglish, Venables, Ramsey etc. Things have definitely changed with technical advancements, the more studious types who’ve put coaching skills above all else have certainly changed the image of the manager.

In a way you are right. Then, more players who had a distinguished playing career turned their hand to management but I would argue that of the ones you mentioned only Dalglish was an exceptional player. Clough was not a great footballer but he did score a lot of goals before his career ended prematurely through injury.

[splott parker]

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In a way you are right. Then, more players who had a distinguished playing career turned their hand to management but I would argue that of the ones you mentioned only Dalglish was an exceptional player. Clough was not a great footballer but he did score a lot of goals before his career ended prematurely through injury.

I forgot Bobby Robson.

[NYCBlue]

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Pep, Conte, Ancelotti, Zidane, Mancini, Deschamps.

Xavi and Gerrard both had a decent start to their managerial careers. Viera and Arteta both doing well in the PL.

Plenty of top players still making good managers.

That's not the point. No one is saying that great players can't be great managers. The point is that being a great and very successful player doesn't necessarily make you a good manager.

[Henry Hill]

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That's not the point. No one is saying that great players can't be great managers. The point is that being a great and very successful player doesn't necessarily make you a good manager.

No one is saying it? It was said in the second reply on the thread??

“Can't get my head around top clubs who employ famous ex-players in the belief that they are destined to become great managers.”

And

“There will always be exceptions to the rule but not many players follow up a stellar playing career by achieving top honours as a coach/manager.”

There are loads of examples in the past and the present and no doubt will be in the future.

[NYCBlue]

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Neither of those statements says that a great player can't be a great manager.

There are also plenty of examples of great players that failed as managers.