Sam Hammam

[stan butler]

Re: Sam Hammam

From what I can gather from Keith, the invite was out of the blue at short notice. He went along out of curiosity. The meeting was informal. He left the meeting wondering if it was worth it but happy that any formal link between Hammam and the club is now severed. It’s useful to know he is no longer a shareholder . The description of Hammam being just a fan, apparently are his words. In terms of who was there apparently it was only 3 and it does not take much imagination who one of the other 2 might be.

If the invite was short notice he should have refused it.
I’m sure Sam didn’t invite a trust chairman to Penarth just to say I’m just a fan now.
It wreaks of bullshit and I’m sure there was a different reason.
But us fans won’t know due to it being a selective chosen few in attendance.
One word.Dodgy.

[discodaz]

Re: Sam Hammam

Scam is now just a mosquito and has given up the title of head leech

[lisvaneblue]

Re: Sam Hammam

From what I can gather from Keith, the invite was out of the blue at short notice. He went along out of curiosity. The meeting was informal. He left the meeting wondering if it was worth it but happy that any formal link between Hammam and the club is now severed. It’s useful to know he is no longer a shareholder . The description of Hammam being just a fan, apparently are his words. In terms of who was there apparently it was only 3 and it does not take much imagination who one of the other 2 might be.

The 'report' from the Trust lacks detail. Reports of meetings usually contain details of venue, attendees, agenda, Q&A etc. It sounds typical Hammam smoke and mirrors and the vagueness of details does nothing for the Trust's credit

[Sir Sidney Ruff-Diamond]

Re: Sam Hammam

He’s a smelly ****ing turd that just won’t flush. Scum.

[Tuerto]

Re: Sam Hammam

The 'report' from the Trust lacks detail. Reports of meetings usually contain details of venue, attendees, agenda, Q&A etc. It sounds typical Hammam smoke and mirrors and the vagueness of details does nothing for the Trust's credit

I tend to agree with you, although i don't think that it discredits the trust. I can remember when England sacked Roy Hodgson, and the FA made him do a press conference the day after his sacking. Hodgson commented by saying 'I don't know why i am here' Very true i thought, he was yesterdays news, no longer relevant, same as Hammam. I'm certain that whatever was said could've been conducted over the phone, or preferably not at all. It's no big deal in the scheme of things, but putting out a message of an informal meeting with someone to tell us that he is no longer involved is a bit odd. Just send a text message and save on the fuel.

[The Bloop]

Re: Sam Hammam

Why would the trust accept a meeting with someone no longer connected to the club? There was a settlement and I would think it includes some sort of non-disclosure, so why does he feel the need to open up a dialogue as soon as he has reached that settlement ?(for the full £15m according to elsewhere).
If Sam wanted to let the world know he's just a fan, just release a statement on Instagram or twitter like the rest of the world.

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Sam Hammam

The 'report' from the Trust lacks detail. Reports of meetings usually contain details of venue, attendees, agenda, Q&A etc. It sounds typical Hammam smoke and mirrors and the vagueness of details does nothing for the Trust's credit

I genuinely don't get the fuss about this. Now, if Keith had gone to the meeting and had not informed Trust members about it, that would be a different matter, but maybe the reason why there's not a great deal of detail was that it was just an informal get together in which the club was discussed in the way so many of us do when we meet?

I'm surprised by the degree of apparent paranoia Sam Hamman can still provoke among City fans considering that he is now very much yesterday's man.

[stan butler]

Re: Sam Hammam

I genuinely don't get the fuss about this. Now, if Keith had gone to the meeting and had not informed Trust members about it, that would be a different matter, but maybe the reason why there's not a great deal of detail was that it was just an informal get together in which the club was discussed in the way so many of us do when we meet?

I'm surprised by the degree of apparent paranoia Sam Hamman can still provoke among City fans considering that he is now very much yesterday's man.

There was no need to meet for what has been quoted.
I believe there was more to it. No doubt thinks the trust is another way for him and his minions to get at the club.
Sam was thought to be a yesterdays man in the past only for him to pop up and to demand cash from my club..
I don't think this vague meeting will have done Keith and the trust any favours with the club.
Formal get together? Yeah right

[Hilts]

Re: Sam Hammam

I genuinely don't get the fuss about this. Now, if Keith had gone to the meeting and had not informed Trust members about it, that would be a different matter, but maybe the reason why there's not a great deal of detail was that it was just an informal get together in which the club was discussed in the way so many of us do when we meet?

I'm surprised by the degree of apparent paranoia Sam Hamman can still provoke among City fans considering that he is now very much yesterday's man.

I dont think there is that much fuss Bob.

Youve posted a message on the site. Your going to get opinions.

I agree with Lisvane and Tuerto. I dont see why there was a meeting.

I think ignoring his request for a meeting or declining would have been a better option.

Dont think it damages the Trust though.

Its not really a big issue. Lets just hope its really the end of Sam suing the club.

Time to move on.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Sam Hammam

There was no need to meet for what has been quoted. I believe there was more to it. No doubt thinks the trust is another way for him and his minions to get at the club.

I think that's nonsense. I doubt Sam Hammam knows much about the Trust or cares about it either. He's known Keith Morgan for something like 16 or 17 years, and knew him long before the Trust existed. He always enjoyed Keith's company, particularly as Keith is a knowledgeable individual and would give him a good grilling regarding the club's financial dealings. The fact that Keith is now Chairman of the Trust is almost certainly of no interest to Sam Hammam.

[lisvaneblue]

Re: Sam Hammam

I think that's nonsense. I doubt Sam Hammam knows much about the Trust or cares about it either. He's known Keith Morgan for something like 16 or 17 years, and knew him long before the Trust existed. He always enjoyed Keith's company, particularly as Keith is a knowledgeable individual and would give him a good grilling regarding the club's financial dealings. The fact that Keith is now Chairman of the Trust is almost certainly of no interest to Sam Hammam.

If Keith had gone to the meeting as an individual and long time friend of SH that's fine and no one needs to know about. However he went along in his capacity as chair of the Trust and also informed CCFC that he would be going ( that would have gone down well after their payout to Sam).

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Sam Hammam

If Keith had gone to the meeting as an individual and long time friend of SH that's fine and no one needs to know about. However he went along in his capacity as chair of the Trust and also informed CCFC that he would be going ( that would have gone down well after their payout to Sam).

Is that a fact? Was Keith invited because he was Chair of the Trust? Was he actually invited in that capacity? Or did he just feel obliged to contact the club and reveal that he was going because he currently holds that position?

[Nobody's Rep]

Re: Sam Hammam

Is that a fact? Was Keith invited because he was Chair of the Trust? Was he actually invited in that capacity? Or did he just feel obliged to contact the club and reveal that he was going because he currently holds that position?

If he was or wasn't invited as chair then he did the right thing by disclosing to the club as a courtesy as it could be seen as devisive or a conflict of interest if he hadn't - but if he went as an individual then it didn't need publicising on a message board under the name of the trust?

The fact that it has with such scant information has probably led to this thread being longer than it should as people probably want to know who else was there and what else was discussed including if the actual figure of settlement was disclosed which is probably what most people want to know

For me I just want rid of Sam from any conversation associated with this club and bin him as part of another unsavory chapter in our history

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Sam Hammam

If he was or wasn't invited as chair then he did the right thing by disclosing to the club as a courtesy as it could be seen as devisive or a conflict of interest if he hadn't - but if he went as an individual then it didn't need publicising on a message board under the name of the trust?

The problem is that if Keith hadn't informed Trust members that he'd attended this get-together and it was subsequently discovered that he was there, he'd get all sorts of muck thrown at him from various quarters.

I know from bitter personal experience that as soon as you take up a position with an organisation like CCST, you're damned if you and damned if you don't. There will always be people lining up to have a pop at you no matter what you do or don't do, despite the fact that such people never do anything constructive themselves.

[OurManFlint II]

Re: Sam Hammam

If Keith had gone to the meeting as an individual and long time friend of SH that's fine and no one needs to know about. However he went along in his capacity as chair of the Trust and also informed CCFC that he would be going ( that would have gone down well after their payout to Sam).

You should raise your concerns at the next Trust meeting, have the secretary put it on the agenda and we can then push for a vote of no confidence and how the chair brought the trust in to disrepute. There seems to a few trust members in this thread that will back you, I'm sure as member you will get the necessary signatures.