Yma O Hyd

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I'm not disputing if it happened or not, but doesn't this sound like one of them urban myths you read online?!

It was in the eggo or Western Mail

[dembethewarrior]

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It was in the eggo or Western Mail

Yeah I've got teeny recollections of the story myself so wasn't trying to dispute it was reported somehow..just saying it sounds like one of them types of stories you hear repeated down the pub etc.

[Jordi Culé]

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No

I have always thought that the provision of services should be determined by the demand for that service .

I don't see the point of sending out bilingual council forms when in some places hardly anyone speaks Welsh.

Are you of the same opinion about the incurred costs and the obvious waste of time in providing language platforms for say Somali, Arabic, Aramaic, perhaps even Ukranian on its way etc ?

Genuinely curious.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Are you of the same opinion about the incurred costs and the obvious waste of time in providing language platforms for say Somali, Arabic, Aramaic, perhaps even Ukranian on its way etc ?

Genuinely curious.

The reason why in a city like cardiff that multi language information is provided because in many immigrant communities the population , especially amongst the elderly , speaks very little English.

In Cardiff is there a elderly population of Welsh speakers that cannot understand English and need these bilingual forms ?

I very much doubt it .

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In defence of Sludge...

here he is again, defending the tories :hehe:

[Rjk]

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The reason why in a city like cardiff that multi language information is provided because in many immigrant communities the population , especially amongst the elderly , speaks very little English.

In Cardiff is there a elderly population of Welsh speakers that cannot understand English and need these bilingual forms ?

I very much doubt it .

I think there are around 35 k people in Cardiff who's first language is Welsh.
they can probably all manage to fill in a form in English, but why should they have to?

[JamesWales]

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here he is again, defending the tories :hehe:

haha :hehe:

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I think the point you make that "Welsh will never die now" is completely incorrect.

without significant efforts to keep it going it could easily die out within a few generations.
it is held up as a model of how to maintain a minority language by many countries.

there are languages in China with tens of millions of speakers that you've never heard of, that are dying out rapidly because the Chinese government want mandarin to be the only language

Do you think Cardiff County Council providing a call line in English and Welsh is a significant step in preserving the Welsh language ?

I don't

Spend the money on a Welsh language festival in Cardiff every summer for example

Who wants English , or Indeed Welsh to be the only language ?

That's clearly not what the critics of bilingual Council forms is about

Welsh is in a good state these days , better than I can remember . Do people think the council spending money on language classes for the many is a better use of resources ?

Or is anyone who suggests that a goose stepping anti Welsh nazi ?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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I think there are around 35 k people in Cardiff who's first language is Welsh.
they can probably all manage to fill in a form in English, but why should they have to?

I bet you most of them fill it in in English

My ex missus was a raving Welsh nationalist , on the day of the vote for a Welsh parliament she pissed off into town shopping with her mother who was always slagging off the English and neither of them bothered to vote .

It's box ticking

[willo1927]

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I bet you most of them fill it in in English

My ex missus was a raving Welsh nationalist , on the day of the vote for a Welsh parliament she pissed off into town shopping with her mother who was always slagging off the English and neither of them bothered to vote .

It's box ticking

Can't think why she left you with your open minded attitude to life?

[goats]

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I think there are around 35 k people in Cardiff who's first language is Welsh.
they can probably all manage to fill in a form in English, but why should they have to?

Never that many, less than 5% of the population isn’t it? Know quite a few parents who send their kids to Welsh primary but none of them speak any Welsh….

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I bet you most of them fill it in in English

My ex missus was a raving Welsh nationalist , on the day of the vote for a Welsh parliament she pissed off into town shopping with her mother who was always slagging off the English and neither of them bothered to vote .

It's box ticking

This is such an unbelievably arrogant attitude to have, it's not box ticking if you prefer to fill it in in your first language. Who the hell do you think you are?

[dembethewarrior]

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Can't think why she left you with your open minded attitude to life?

It's because he's a tory. He's let it slip in this thread.

[dembethewarrior]

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This is such an unbelievably arrogant attitude to have, it's not box ticking if you prefer to fill it in in your first language. Who the hell do you think you are?

Whoa now. You keep that violence in check sonny.

[Jordi Culé]

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Never that many, less than 5% of the population isn’t it? Know quite a few parents who send their kids to Welsh primary but none of them speak any Welsh….

According to the last census 11.1% are fluent in Welsh.

I'd be interested to know the percentages of those that speak Somali, Arabic etc. so Sludge can support his case that providing a Welsh language platform is a waste of time and money when comparing the absolute need for the provision of other languages to support some communities within Cardiff.