Yma O Hyd

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Can't say I recall A Whiter Shade of Pale being sung at Welsh internationals, but I've missed a fair few in recent years.

I thought you were struggling with the concept of lyrical interpretation not location. My mistake.

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Jesus Christ, overthinking this a bit aren't we some of you? 30000 Welsh people sing a song together, build up a brilliant atmosphere and have a great time, let's find some negatives

[JamesWales]

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Can't say I recall A Whiter Shade of Pale being sung at Welsh internationals, but I've missed a fair few in recent years.

A whiter shade of Bale would sound quite stirring coming from the Canton end in full voice.

[JamesWales]

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Jesus Christ, overthinking this a bit aren't we some of you? 30000 Welsh people sing a song together, build up a brilliant atmosphere and have a great time, let's find some negatives

Don't bring Jesus into it. He has enough going on with his first Christmas world cup coming up

[cyril evans awaydays]

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Don't bring Jesus into it. He has enough going on with his first Christmas world cup coming up

Truthpaste in 3.2.1

[blue matt]

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I'm aware of that. But who is the author of Yma O Hyd referring to? Who are the 'Dic Sion Dafydds' as far as he and those who champion this song concerned? What is the context?

Its from a music sheet site, but this is what they have said

Dic Siôn Dafydd – (literal translation: “Richard son of John son of David” - is a term of abuse applied to a Welshman who denies his native language and speaks only English. In other words, a traitor.

The term originates from a one Dic Siôn Dafydd who left Wales to became a draper in London. His pomposity led him to claim that he had forgotten how to speak Welsh, and on a visit to his mother in Wales who spoke only Welsh he insisted on speaking English.

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Its from a music sheet site, but this is what they have said

Dic Siôn Dafydd – (literal translation: “Richard son of John son of David” - is a term of abuse applied to a Welshman who denies his native language and speaks only English. In other words, a traitor.

The term originates from a one Dic Siôn Dafydd who left Wales to became a draper in London. His pomposity led him to claim that he had forgotten how to speak Welsh, and on a visit to his mother in Wales who spoke only Welsh he insisted on speaking English.

Oh God you've just added another 5 pages to this thread :hehe:

[blue matt]

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Oh God you've just added another 5 pages to this thread :hehe:

Im here all day :getscoat:

[The Lone Gunman]

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Jesus Christ, overthinking this a bit aren't we some of you?

Bit touchy, aren't you?

[The Lone Gunman]

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Oh God you've just added another 5 pages to this thread

Are you a Welsh speaker of a servile, floor-licking Dic Sion Dafydd?

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Bit touchy, aren't you?

Says the one demanding explanations of lyrics a week after the game :hehe:

Just let people enjoy things, it's fine

[The Lone Gunman]

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Says the one demanding explanations of lyrics a week after the game

It's merely a discussion. If you don't like it, find yourself another thread.

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It's merely a discussion. If you don't like it, find yourself another thread.

Oh I like it just fine, my contribution to the discussion is that you're overthinking it and should let people enjoy things. If you don't like that, find yourself another thread

[The Lone Gunman]

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Oh I like it just fine....

Stop whinging, then.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Does anyone remember that druid bloke Dr Robyn Lewis who was prominent in the Welsh language Society alongside Ffred Ffrancis ?

He used to write into the western mail and described anyone living in Wales who didn't speak welsh as a monoglot and a colonialist

Daft old sod , probably dead now

He hated the English so much he studied at university college London, England

Mind you we do have the people who say they walk into pubs and shops in Welsh speaking areas and THEY .....start speaking in Welsh

I have never experienced that , I think it's a myth and quite frankly if you go into a pub in a Welsh speaking area and the locals are speaking Welsh then it seems perfectly normal I would have thought .

Used to go on holiday when I was younger to Newquay West Wales with my mate and his family who were from Birmingham but moved down here when my mate was a kid

His old man loved Wales, soon became a regular at Cardiff City

It's only a line on a map really