Takeover soon?

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Takeover soon?

FA cup semifinal
FA Cup Final
Carling Cup Final
Playoff Final

And those appearances at Wembley all came after Tan arrived?

[The Lone Gunman]

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Surely leasing a facility is far more cost effective than building our own

Who knows? Senior club officials have been talking about building their own training facility at the Vale for more than a decade and they’ve gone to the lengths of getting planning permission for it (twice), so they seem to believe it would be beneficial.

[TWGL1]

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Ah , no , I stand corrected

[Trigger]

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He has done ok for me, rescued the rebrand shocker and we have been promoted twice.

However a club of our size with the stadium we have "should" be competing at this level as a minimum (there are bigger clubs at this level and we have no divine right of course).

The 2 promotions were welcome, larger clubs have struggled more of course but equally smaller clubs have done far better during Tan's time also.

We blew two fantastic opportunities to push on, for whatever reasons.

For me a change would be good, mostly as I can't see anything ahead but struggle with an ownership that whilst servicing the debts and paying the bills just doesn't seem interested at all.

There is no ambition, no energy or drive about the club. I don't think you need to spend massive amounts for ambition either, sometimes just an owner and management that show ambition and a desire to be the best you can be would suffice.

We just...... Drift

[stan butler]

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Tan has made poor decisions but he has been the best and most succesful owner in decades.

[Dorcus]

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Tan has made poor decisions but he has been the best and most succesful owner in decades.

It's been a very low bar Stan. We've never had any luck with owners.

[WJ99mobile]

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It's been a very low bar Stan. We've never had any luck with owners.

Think that goes for the majority of football clubs.

I think he's the best owner we've had for decades and think many would swap theirs for ours

[Armitage Shanks]

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Rick Wright would have been a good owner, if he had the investment of others.

[stan butler]

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Rick Wright would have been a good owner, if he had the investment of others.

Rick Wright seemed to have a plan but not the funds which was a shame.

[Moodybluebird]

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He has done ok for me, rescued the rebrand shocker and we have been promoted twice.

However a club of our size with the stadium we have "should" be competing at this level as a minimum (there are bigger clubs at this level and we have no divine right of course).

The 2 promotions were welcome, larger clubs have struggled more of course but equally smaller clubs have done far better during Tan's time also.

We blew two fantastic opportunities to push on, for whatever reasons.

For me a change would be good, mostly as I can't see anything ahead but struggle with an ownership that whilst servicing the debts and paying the bills just doesn't seem interested at all.

There is no ambition, no energy or drive about the club. I don't think you need to spend massive amounts for ambition either, sometimes just an owner and management that show ambition and a desire to be the best you can be would suffice.

We just...... Drift

I disagree that to "show ambition and a desire to be the best you can be would suffice". Without significant investment they would just be empty words. Anyone can stir the fans passions by promising the Earth but at the end of the day it all comes down to money.

Sam had all those things you desire, like ambition, energy and drive and we all know how that turned out.

Tan is not perfect but he's the best owner we've ever had.

[dembethewarrior]

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I disagree that to "show ambition and a desire to be the best you can be would suffice". Without significant investment they would just be empty words. Anyone can stir the fans passions by promising the Earth but at the end of the day it all comes down to money.

Sam had all those things you desire, like ambition, energy and drive and we all know how that turned out.

Tan is not perfect but he's the best owner we've ever had.

[Trigger]

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I disagree that to "show ambition and a desire to be the best you can be would suffice". Without significant investment they would just be empty words. Anyone can stir the fans passions by promising the Earth but at the end of the day it all comes down to money.

Sam had all those things you desire, like ambition, energy and drive and we all know how that turned out.

Tan is not perfect but he's the best owner we've ever had.

I did say sometimes.

I'm thinking of those clubs on smaller budgets that have had decent success because they had a plan and a vision. We have none.

If a quarter of what we have spent was directed better, in a joined up forward thinking manner, we would be better off for it.

Let's be honest whoever buys us is going to have money, unless Tan is practically giving us away.

[Moodybluebird]

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I did say sometimes.

I'm thinking of those clubs on smaller budgets that have had decent success because they had a plan and a vision. We have none.

If a quarter of what we have spent was directed better, in a joined up forward thinking manner, we would be better off for it.

Let's be honest whoever buys us is going to have money, unless Tan is practically giving us away.

Don't get me wrong, I agree that the club should be more professionally run. Things like recruitment, having a director of football, better scouting etc etc.

Ideally, there should also be a clear vision for the club and much better planning but this has to be coupled with significant investment. Tan has stabilised a club that was on very rocky ground and for that fans should be eternally grateful.

As much as I would like my club to be as progressive as Wolves, Villa, Brighton and Palace etc, there is a part of me that says be careful what you wish for as it could all go horribly wrong. Maybe I am risk averse and prefer the security blanket than Tan provides.

[The Lone Gunman]

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As much as I would like my club to be as progressive as Wolves, Villa, Brighton and Palace etc, there is a part of me that says be careful what you wish for as it could all go horribly wrong. Maybe I am risk averse and prefer the security blanket than Tan provides.

Little old Cardiff.

[Moodybluebird]

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Little old Cardiff.

Little old stable Cardiff as opposed to little old defunct Bury, big old floundering Sunderland and little old sinking Bolton.