Anyone have a subscription to The Times?

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Can't disagree with much of what he said to be fair. We do have a lot of delusional and entitled fans nowadays.

Spot on. Plus a tad precious and highly-sensitive to criticism. If anyone had read this board for a 72hour period last week they'd draw the same conclusions

[MacAdder]

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Can't disagree with much of what he said to be fair. We do have a lot of delusional and entitled fans nowadays.

Spot on. Plus a tad precious and highly-sensitive to criticism. If anyone had read this board for a 72hour period last week they'd draw the same conclusions

^^^these^^^

[the other bob wilson]

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Hey Bob, if the games since Slade have been joyless, what did you make of the period between 1985 and 2002? The Hammam days were quite positive despite all the chaos as we rose up after that dire period......

Plenty of joyless football around then, but, for about 95 per cent of that time there wasn’t the finance at the club to realistically expect much better- that’s not been the case during the period I’m talking about where the means have been in place to build squads which played the game in a different manner.

[the other bob wilson]

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Spot on. Plus a tad precious and highly-sensitive to criticism. If anyone had read this board for a 72hour period last week they'd draw the same conclusions

Says someone who has persistently been critical of the team for the same sort of faults I’ve talked about.

[goats]

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Plenty of joyless football around then, but, for about 95 per cent of that time there wasn’t the finance at the club to realistically expect much better- that’s not been the case during the period I’m talking about where the means have been in place to build squads which played the game in a different manner.

Too true, I used to dream of a rich person buying us in the clemo days....even Rick Wright seemed like it to start with lol....we made some big signings if I recall..:hehe:

[the other bob wilson]

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Too true, I used to dream of a rich person buying us in the clemo days....even Rick Wright seemed like it to start with lol....we made some big signings if I recall..:hehe:

He’s why I said ninety five per cent, we spent an awful lot by Fourth Division standards when we won the title.

[surge]

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Jayne Ludlow the former Wales women's team manager left her job last week, she's from where I live now and a few of the locals remember her as someone their kids used to play with, she's popular up here, but I can't say I'm much of a fan of hers after I saw Wales start the second half of their recent game with Norway by booting the ball upfield about forty yards straight into touch. Wales had been so defensive throughout the first half, but this was them just copying rugby by playing for field position, I wonder if Jayne Ludlow starting playing football because she hoped one day a team of hers would be restarting matches like that?

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If there is a club among the ninety two that has played more attritional, percentage based, physical, aerial, careless passing, poor technique and unattractive football since 2014, then its fans have my profound sympathy because we've had plenty of it down here in south Wales and so I don't appreciate some bloke from the Times telling me that I'm being "precious" because I fear that our new manager is going to be offering more of the same - I've suffered enough (increasingly, I get that feeling that many others feel this way as well), Cardiff City have not been playing a version of the game I fell in love with when I was about six for ages and, with no Whitts around to remind us what the game can be like anymore, would like to see some signs of us playing with a bit of style every mow and then.

For the sake of balance, and being a pedantic so-and-so, Jayne's tactics may have been more defensive than some would like but that Wales would have qualified if based on goal difference and she's done an amazing job getting kids interested in women's football. There's a write-up here about the evolution she oversaw: http://www.markpitman1.com/2021/01/1...getherStronger

I do take your wider point though, especially when there is so much choice open to kids about what sport they get involved in now. Even clubs who do focus on constricting the opposition should be able to play football as well or else it all falls down very quickly.

[tforturton]

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Thanks for retrieving that article, Life on Mars. I think it was a pretty fair one, though it went on about McCarthy, and not enough about Cardiff, for my liking. Still, the guy is right in what he says. There are still a few managers around who seem to have the knack, and if McCarthy is one of them, then we'll be glad he joined us. Fingers crossed.

[the other bob wilson]

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For the sake of balance, and being a pedantic so-and-so, Jayne's tactics may have been more defensive than some would like but that Wales would have qualified if based on goal difference and she's done an amazing job getting kids interested in women's football. There's a write-up here about the evolution she oversaw: http://www.markpitman1.com/2021/01/1...getherStronger

I do take your wider point though, especially when there is so much choice open to kids about what sport they get involved in now. Even clubs who do focus on constricting the opposition should be able to play football as well or else it all falls down very quickly.

Yes, I’d agree that she definitely oversaw an improvement in the Welsh women’s game and it’s also only fair to say that Wales were quite positive in their approach when they played out in Norway, but I honestly couldn’t believe what I was watching at times in the match at Cardiff City Stadium. The irony being that when Wales had to attack after going 1-0 down they caused the Norwegians plenty of problems.

[bigjoe]

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Former Labour leader;5160736] ... For my sins I admit to occasionally buying the Times, mainly for the crosswords I should add , but rarely buy it now since lockdown started.

Croesy Blue;5160739]I think he is quite clever and he is a good writer too, but he is also the dictionary definition of an arse hole.

That could have helped but the Times crossword is cryptic

[Croesy Blue]

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That could have helped but the Times crossword is cryptic

:hehe:

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Ron Liddle is a horrible far right tosspot

[cardiff55]

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Rod Liddle, should get his facts right, Cardiff have not been around the 3rd tier for most of their existence.......Millwall have though!

The rest of the article is OK, positive about McCarthy,. and he is right that most clubs think they are bigger than they are. Our rightful position over our history is mid table 2nd tier.

Maybe we missed a trick with Jayne Ludlow?? Or was Mick appointed before she left, I could have mad a mint as she was no where in the betting. She may, as Bob says. be popular up where he lives but was pretty much not like buy most of the Welsh squad (from someone I know who is in the squad). She seems like women's Neil Warnock.

You can't expect a Millwall fan to write anything nice about City though.

[the other bob wilson]

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Rod Liddle, should get his facts right, Cardiff have not been around the 3rd tier for most of their existence.......Millwall have though!

The rest of the article is OK, positive about McCarthy,. and he is right that most clubs think they are bigger than they are. Our rightful position over our history is mid table 2nd tier.

Maybe we missed a trick with Jayne Ludlow?? Or was Mick appointed before she left, I could have mad a mint as she was no where in the betting. She may, as Bob says. be popular up where he lives but was pretty much not like buy most of the Welsh squad (from someone I know who is in the squad). She seems like women's Neil Warnock.

You can't expect a Millwall fan to write anything nice about City though.

You mention something that occurred to me while reading the article - do City fans really think they have a right to be in the top flight? I don't know any who do. We've been kind of mid table second tier typically throughout our history, but I think it's fair to say that over the past fifty years or so, Cardiff's increased status means that we should be seen as under achievers during that time. I'd say it's reasonable to think we should have spent a fair bit more time in the First Division/Premier League since 1970 than we have done, but that's different to thinking we should be there as of right. Also, the idea that City fans believe we should be competing for Europe every year, any City fan who truly believes that is delusional I'm afraid - that sort of thing ended in the 90s.

[Pearcey3]

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I can’t say I disagree with him about some of our fans having ideas above their stations (some thought we were in with a chance of getting Howe ffs) and I do think Mick had a word reputation than he deserves.

But I disagree fans should be happy with being lumped with a Pulis etc.

Why would Cardiff fans be wrong in thinking they could get Howe? He was the previous manager of Bournemouth not Barcelona.