Says it all........

[Rjk]

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Not sure that’s even true

probably depends how you split up London and the south east, and take into account the wider "catchment areas" of different sides, but I could well imagine it not being true

[A Quiet Monkfish]

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Logic indicates Bournemouth have beneftted from cheating FFP to get into the Prem in the first instance; Logic queries why they haven't been sanctioned given they have a Russian owner.

I think he covered his tracks a lot better than other have done.

[Nobody's Rep]

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when little towns like Brighton and Bournemouth get PL football and we continue to under deliver.

our business and football model is clearly crap!

And now the subject of discussion on the other board as someone has cut and pasted it 😂😂

[stan butler]

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when little towns like Brighton and Bournemouth get PL football and we continue to under deliver.

our business and football model is clearly crap!

Hi Ninian27 :hehe:

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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It's great to see so called little clubs like Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley upsetting the big boys . The sad fact is Cardiff City are not even in that group. Of course population is no divine right for having a decent football side but let's be honest we are totally crap considering the population we have here .

Sheffield Wednesday , Leeds Sunderland , Stoke etc have had seasons in the abyss but we make a career out of it . We are crap.

[JamesWales]

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It's great to see so called little clubs like Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley upsetting the big boys . The sad fact is Cardiff City are not even in that group. Of course population is no divine right for having a decent football side but let's be honest we are totally crap considering the population we have here .

Sheffield Wednesday , Leeds Sunderland , Stoke etc have had seasons in the abyss but we make a career out of it . We are crap.

I agree, it's good to see smaller clubs doing well and larger ones less so - it's healthy.

I think there is a case for City being the most underachieving club in the country. Perhaps alongside Bristol City, Hull City, Plymouth, Hearts, Hibs, maybe the south London clubs?

Certainly given our size, 1 FA Cup is a pretty poor return.

[Rjk]

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It's great to see so called little clubs like Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley upsetting the big boys . The sad fact is Cardiff City are not even in that group. Of course population is no divine right for having a decent football side but let's be honest we are totally crap considering the population we have here .

Sheffield Wednesday , Leeds Sunderland , Stoke etc have had seasons in the abyss but we make a career out of it . We are crap.

is mid table championship the abyss for us?

[dml1954]

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It's great to see so called little clubs like Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley upsetting the big boys . The sad fact is Cardiff City are not even in that group. Of course population is no divine right for having a decent football side but let's be honest we are totally crap considering the population we have here .

Sheffield Wednesday , Leeds Sunderland , Stoke etc have had seasons in the abyss but we make a career out of it . We are crap.

Sheff Wed and Sunderland are currently in an even bigger ‘abyss’ than we are then and Stoke have been stuck in the same division as us now for years, partly while we have enjoyed visits to the Premier League. They therefore must be considerably crapper than us. Leeds, Southampton and Sheffield United have all visited League One whilst we have been making a decent fist of competing in the Championship. With all that our club has achieved in the last 19 years of continuous involvement in the Championship or above, including our visits to Wembley in two cup finals and a play off final, to even suggest that we are crap and in an ‘abyss’ is just totally ridiculous.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

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Sheff Wed and Sunderland are currently in an even bigger ‘abyss’ than we are then and Stoke have been stuck in the same division as us now for years, partly while we have enjoyed visits to the Premier League. They therefore must be considerably crapper than us. Leeds, Southampton and Sheffield United have all visited League One whilst we have been making a decent fist of competing in the Championship. With all that our club has achieved in the last 19 years of continuous involvement in the Championship or above, including our visits to Wembley in two cup finals and a play off final, to even suggest that we are crap and in an ‘abyss’ is just totally ridiculous.

I admire your style but we are basically crap .

Sheffield Weds , Sunderland etc get relegated but they won't be down for long . The last time we got relegated from the second division we slipped right back and left it for 17 years .

I can't see Sunderland or Sheffield Wednesday staying down there for long , can you ?

[Mr Soul '68]

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He’s young, he’s British, he played the game in this country at quite a high level in the recent past and has proved his coaching ability with our young players already in the U23’s. He deserves his chance, having been given the job of keeping us in the division and succeeding at it, whilst showing the ability to recognise and bring in young hungry players of ability from Premier League and Championship clubs, that we never knew existed before. Every manager has to start somewhere. He has done nothing to deserve the barrage of criticism from some people on this board.

I hope you are right and that he comes good for next season. Only time will tell

[Delbert]

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VT has never understood he knows nothing about football and therefore has never recruited people who do.

To go from the Premier League to 19th in the Championship (and with no money left!) in 3 years takes an epic degree of incompetence.

Brighton, Brentford and the rest who have invested in the best football brains on the market to succeed would laugh at the idea of their football club being run by the likes of VT, Dalman and Ken.