Championship xg table.

[the other bob wilson]

I know many are very sceptical about xg ratings and I must say, after watching all forty six of our games this season, I'm struggling to see how we can be as high as we are in this table. Millwall and QPR are a lot lower than their actual finishing positions, but I'd say City are the side with the biggest difference between their finishing and their position in the xg table.

https://twitter.com/EFLStats/status/1523060590108942336/photo/1

[UNDERHILL1927]

Re: Championship xg table.

I know many are very sceptical about xg ratings and I must say, after watching all forty six of our games this season, I'm struggling to see how we can be as high as we are in this table. Millwall and QPR are a lot lower than their actual finishing positions, but I'd say City are the side with the biggest difference between their finishing and their position in the xg table.

https://twitter.com/EFLStats/status/...942336/photo/1

Does that mean we have been creating chances but not putting them away? (Not sure how it works). I’d tend to go for that, if it is the case.

I also think we’ve been quite unlucky under Morison on more than a few occasions. We’ve really missed Kieffer Moore this season, even when he played he wasn’t really here. I think if we’d had Hugill (or a similar replacement) from the start we’d be much higher up the league.

[LeningradCowboy]

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Does that mean we have been creating chances but not putting them away? (Not sure how it works). I’d tend to go for that, if it is the case.

I also think we’ve been quite unlucky under Morison on more than a few occasions. We’ve really missed Kieffer Moore this season, even when he played he wasn’t really here. I think if we’d had Hugill (or a similar replacement) from the start we’d be much higher up the league.

Hugill scored 4 goals in 18 appearances for us. He wasn't exactly prolific in front of goal.

[UNDERHILL1927]

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Hugill scored 4 goals in 18 appearances for us. He wasn't exactly prolific in front of goal.

But still ten times better than our other options

[Lawnmower]

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Hugill scored 4 goals in 18 appearances for us. He wasn't exactly prolific in front of goal.

Over a season that would equate to about 11 goals, plus the other work he does. Would certainly have added a good few points .

[J R Hartley]

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Xg is the biggest load of bollox in football

[The Lone Gunman]

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Xg is the biggest load of bollox in football

Seconded. It's utter nonsense.

xG: 'Cardiff would be a lot higher in the table if they had scored more goals, conceded less, won more matches and lost fewer.'

Yeah, we know. But they didn't. Hence they finished 18th.

[Rjk]

Re: Championship xg table.

I know many are very sceptical about xg ratings and I must say, after watching all forty six of our games this season, I'm struggling to see how we can be as high as we are in this table. Millwall and QPR are a lot lower than their actual finishing positions, but I'd say City are the side with the biggest difference between their finishing and their position in the xg table.

https://twitter.com/EFLStats/status/...942336/photo/1

I think it mostly reflects the amount of time we spent chasing games, teams tend to generate more xG if they're trying to get back into a game

[J R Hartley]

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Seconded. It's utter nonsense.

xG: 'Cardiff would be a lot higher in the table if they had scored more goals, conceded less, won more matches and lost fewer.'

Yeah, we know. But they didn't. Hence they finished 18th.

Just an excuse for managers and fans to clutch at straws when a result goes against them.

I very rarely see Xg brought into the conversation after a positive result.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Championship xg table.

I know many are very sceptical about xg ratings and I must say, after watching all forty six of our games this season, I'm struggling to see how we can be as high as we are in this table. Millwall and QPR are a lot lower than their actual finishing positions, but I'd say City are the side with the biggest difference between their finishing and their position in the xg table.

https://twitter.com/EFLStats/status/...942336/photo/1

Not too much to say about this, but barely even interesting if you do a comparison of all data in the table with the league table itself.

We conceded 13 more goals than we were expected to. More than any team in the division. Equates to how shit we've been at the back. Scoring 8 less than we were expecting to isn't the highest - West Brom were expected to score 23 more goals than they did.

I concur with others, I think xG is nonsense.

[the other bob wilson]

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I think it mostly reflects the amount of time we spent chasing games, teams tend to generate more xG if they're trying to get back into a game

That makes as much sense as anything to explain it. I’m not convinced by xg, but I did find the difference between our positions in both tables fascinating when most sides position in the xg table was so similar to their positions in the league table.

[Undercoverinwurzelland]

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Just been looking at each club's top scorers. Apart from us, only Barnsley failed to get anyone into double figures. Flint and Colwill were top for us with 6. (Barnsley's top scorer had 9 - so almost double figures).
That has to change next season.

[PhyllisStant]

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XG itself isn't 'total bolox'. However, you have to be careful when interpreting what it means. This example of use IS total bolox as you can't use is to project what would have been over an entire season across all teams and all games. The average punter, and sky sports folk have no idea how to use it but trust me there are some incredibly useful applications for it (and other stats) used by team statisticians for performance management and scouting etc.

[lardy]

Re: Championship xg table.

XG itself isn't 'total bolox'. However, you have to be careful when interpreting what it means. This example of use IS total bolox as you can't use is to project what would have been over an entire season across all teams and all games. The average punter, and sky sports folk have no idea how to use it but trust me there are some incredibly useful applications for it (and other stats) used by team statisticians for performance management and scouting etc.

Yes, it has its uses although it isn't the magic riddle that solves football. I see people thinking that 55% possession means the team deserved to win, which is a much worse way to interpret a statistic.

If you think of xG as just how many shots did the teams have, and how good were those shots (six yards out vs 30 yard speculative) then that's it. They doomed themselves from the off by calling it 'expected goals'.

[William Treseder]

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XG is just wank*ng material for statto’s