Cornelius

[the other bob wilson]

Re: Cornelius

We received a reported seven figure loan fee for Madine from Sheffield United last season plus a seven figure bonus for him when Sheffield Utd got promotion. Our net outlay on him is therefore considerably reduced and not bad value considering we got promotion with him in the squad and he contributed a number of assists, including to the equaliser at Sheffield United, without which we would not have gone up automatically.

I'm praying for the day we sell Madine. Although I've not been a fan of his since he signed for us, that's not the reason why I'm so desperate for him to go - it's to read what you start saying about him when he's no longer our player.

[Heisenberg]

Re: Cornelius

We received a reported seven figure loan fee for Madine from Sheffield United last season plus a seven figure bonus for him when Sheffield Utd got promotion. Our net outlay on him is therefore considerably reduced and not bad value considering we got promotion with him in the squad and he contributed a number of assists, including to the equaliser at Sheffield United, without which we would not have gone up automatically.

Where were these figures reported? I find it hard to believe that Sheffield United agreed to pay at least a million pounds for a short-term loan deal... Never mind the inclusion of another million pounds on top of that for promotion.

[Heisenberg]

Re: Cornelius

I'm praying for the day we sell Madine. Although I've not been a fan of his since he signed for us, that's not the reason why I'm so desperate for him to go - it's to read what you start saying about him when he's no longer our player.

:hehe: I was thinking the same thing.

[The Lone Gunman]

Re: Cornelius

We received a reported seven figure loan fee for Madine from Sheffield United last season plus a seven figure bonus for him when Sheffield Utd got promotion. Our net outlay on him is therefore considerably reduced and not bad value considering we got promotion with him in the squad and he contributed a number of assists, including to the equaliser at Sheffield United, without which we would not have gone up automatically.

:hehe:

Any links to these reports you've read?

[Kitman]

Re: Cornelius

Where were these figures reported? I find it hard to believe that Sheffield United agreed to pay at least a million pounds for a short-term loan deal... Never mind the inclusion of another million pounds on top of that for promotion.

A promotion payment due on a loan player is a new one for me

[splott parker]

Re: Cornelius

We received a reported seven figure loan fee for Madine from Sheffield United last season plus a seven figure bonus for him when Sheffield Utd got promotion. Our net outlay on him is therefore considerably reduced and not bad value considering we got promotion with him in the squad and he contributed a number of assists, including to the equaliser at Sheffield United, without which we would not have gone up automatically.

Two seven figure payments, at least £2 million :yikes: Utter shite are the only two words I can use to describe these ‘reported’ figures!!

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

Re: Cornelius

There can't be many strikers in our history to have made as many appearances as Madine and not scored a goal.

Feeney comes to mind.
Even Eddie scored a couple and even an own goal.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Re: Cornelius

Feeney comes to mind.
Even Eddie scored a couple and even an own goal.

Good shout. I'd forgotten about him. He managed 7 starts and 15 substitute appearances for us in all competitions without a goal. Madine is 1 sub appearance from that record. Feeney didn't cost up to £6m though!

[delmbox]

Re: Cornelius

Good shout. I'd forgotten about him. He managed 7 starts and 15 substitute appearances for us in all competitions without a goal. Madine is 1 sub appearance from that record. Feeney didn't cost up to £6m though!

That Doncaster game is one of my favourite city memories though, when he scored his first the bob bank went apeshit :hehe:

[Steve the Tea]

Re: Cornelius

8 games for us, 0 goals.

Rubbish! Your facts are incorrect. He did not play 8 games for us! Eight games would make 720 mins. He actually played 107 mins for us in 8 substitute appearances. That's the equivalent of playing 1 game and 17 mins.

If you are interested he played:

Aug 25th 2013 … Man C (h) … 1 min
*Nov 24th 2013 … Man U (h) … 6 mins
Nov 30th 2013 … Arsenal (h) … 3 mins
Dec 7th 2013 … C Pal (a) … 22 mins
Dec 21st 2013 ...Liverpool (a) … 10 mins
Dec 26th 2013 … Southampton (h) … 45 mins
Dec 28th 2013 … Sunderland (h) … 8 mins
Jan 11th 2014 … WHU (h) … 12 mins

* He suffered a very bad ankle injury in a cup game which meant he was out injured for 3 months before this game.

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[jon1959]

Re: Cornelius

There can't be many strikers in our history to have made as many appearances as Madine and not scored a goal.

Frederic Guonongbe made 14 appearances (per Wiki - or 15 per WalesOnline) over 2 years and didn't score. Free transfer though.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/many-failed-strikers-cardiff-city-16758127

[bigjoe]

Re: Cornelius

There can't be many strikers in our history to have made as many appearances as Madine and not scored a goal.

Derek Showers?

edit:
just looked it up. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Showers, 10 goals from 83

[bigjoe]

Re: Cornelius

good grief. just realised madine could go through a "purple patch" of a goal every 5 games and easily beat 10 goals from 83

[Steve the Tea]

Re: Cornelius

Andreas Cornelius didn't start a league game for City before being sold back to Copenhagen for an undisclosed fee.

Meanwhile, Gary Madine's league stats for Cardiff are as follows:

6 (+13) appearances, 0 goals.

This season he's made a grand total of one appearance in the Championship (in the first game) and hasn't been seen since. He can't even get on the bench.

Madine reportedly cost £6 million. Somehow, I can't see anyone buying him any time soon. Cornelius is regularly described as the worst transfer in City's history, but surely Madine will represent worse value for money unless he somehow works his way into the team and starts scoring goals.

My point entirely, TLG. There is far too much revisionism in some quarters which is obviously devoid of true facts. I've posted elsewhere a breakdown of Cornelius' 8 substitute appearances either side of a bad ankle injury that sidelined him for over half of the time he was at the Club.

The facts are beyond question. League games only.

Games Started/Substitute: Cornelius ... 0/8 Madine ... 5/14
Minutes Played: Cornelius ... 107 Madine
... 603
Full Games Equivalent: Cornelius ... 1g17mins Madine ... 6g63mins

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[IanD]

Re: Cornelius

That Doncaster game is one of my favourite city memories though, when he scored his first the bob bank went apeshit :hehe:

Which end😁 The Bob Bank going apeshit was an experience the younger generation will never experience. Happy days and glad to say "I was there"