RMT Strikes

[life on mars]

Re: RMT Strikes

Greed , power , greed , driven by a left loop who earns £150k a year and needs to stay in that job

, and we think the Tories are bad .

Drivers are well paid , conditions they have are good , including great pension, and brilliant safety welfare at work ,they have regular medical tests and allowed to stay off until any suspected health issuers are completely resolved and then return on light duty and familiarisation training even if they have driven for 20 plus years , yes I have a few close driver friends saw one wage at over £90k with overtime others are upwards of 40 k to 60k .

Arrivai Train guards get 35k plus OT think the National average is 29k can earn a lot more with Overtime due to absence and there a lot that , some got a 4% rise Dec 21 .

The folk I really feel sorry for are bus drivers doing equally responsible job for £10 .50 an hour .

Power and greed blackmail of the rail unions has been with us for decades , never mind the folks who need to go to work on minimum wages , they did not got to furlough wages were supported all through that pandemic others suffered job loss and 20% pay drop .

How will this turn out automated trains because of wage demands.

This is a convenient political left battle tactic , like the issues with Passports / DVLA all to cause chaos and uncertainty I'm sure Sir Kier will be outraged . IA Is at highest in 5 yrs amid signs that workplace militancy is growing , is it political or is real hardship is the question especially when you see there are more jobs and the national Wage up again , the latest rise is the third highest annual increase since the crash of 2008

Should we not be pulling together to get the economy going and folk to work on time ??????????

PS Their fight for P&O workers is a just one as is real poorly paid folk

[Hilts]

Re: RMT Strikes

Greed , power , greed , driven by a left loop who earns £150k a year and needs to stay in that job

, and we think the Tories are bad .

Drivers are well paid , conditions they have are good , including great pension, and brilliant safety welfare at work ,they have regular medical tests and allowed to stay off until any suspected health issuers are completely resolved and then return on light duty and familiarisation training even if they have driven for 20 plus years , yes I have a few close driver friends saw one wage at over £90k with overtime others are upwards of 40 k to 60k .

Arrivai Train guards get 35k plus OT think the National average is 29k can earn a lot more with Overtime due to absence and there a lot that , some got a 4% rise Dec 21 .

The folk I really feel sorry for are bus drivers doing equally responsible job for £10 .50 an hour .

Power and greed blackmail of the rail unions has been with us for decades , never mind the folks who need to go to work on minimum wages , they did not got to furlough wages were supported all through that pandemic others suffered job loss and 20% pay drop .

How will this turn out automated trains because of wage demands.

This is a convenient political left battle tactic , like the issues with Passports / DVLA all to cause chaos and uncertainty I'm sure Sir Kier will be outraged . IA Is at highest in 5 yrs amid signs that workplace militancy is growing , is it political or is real hardship is the question especially when you see there are more jobs and the national Wage up again , the latest rise is the third highest annual increase since the crash of 2008

Should we not be pulling together to get the economy going and folk to work on time ??????????

PS Their fight for P&O workers is a just one as is real poorly paid folk

At least you admit the Tories are bad.

[chrisp_1927]

Re: RMT Strikes

Greed , power , greed , driven by a left loop who earns £150k a year and needs to stay in that job

, and we think the Tories are bad .

Drivers are well paid , conditions they have are good , including great pension, and brilliant safety welfare at work ,they have regular medical tests and allowed to stay off until any suspected health issuers are completely resolved and then return on light duty and familiarisation training even if they have driven for 20 plus years , yes I have a few close driver friends saw one wage at over £90k with overtime others are upwards of 40 k to 60k .

Arrivai Train guards get 35k plus OT think the National average is 29k can earn a lot more with Overtime due to absence and there a lot that , some got a 4% rise Dec 21 .

The folk I really feel sorry for are bus drivers doing equally responsible job for £10 .50 an hour .

Power and greed blackmail of the rail unions has been with us for decades , never mind the folks who need to go to work on minimum wages , they did not got to furlough wages were supported all through that pandemic others suffered job loss and 20% pay drop .

How will this turn out automated trains because of wage demands.

This is a convenient political left battle tactic , like the issues with Passports / DVLA all to cause chaos and uncertainty I'm sure Sir Kier will be outraged . IA Is at highest in 5 yrs amid signs that workplace militancy is growing , is it political or is real hardship is the question especially when you see there are more jobs and the national Wage up again , the latest rise is the third highest annual increase since the crash of 2008

Should we not be pulling together to get the economy going and folk to work on time ??????????

PS Their fight for P&O workers is a just one as is real poorly paid folk

Train driver wages have got nothing to do with this strike or the rmt (with a few exceptions) . I share a lot of your feelings about the rmt leadership. Although I'm not sure they had much of a choice here. 3 years of pay freezes for most of the staff represented by the rmt, and the government were giving every indication that was going to continue.

[Doucas]

Re: RMT Strikes

Greed , power , greed , driven by a left loop who earns £150k a year and needs to stay in that job

, and we think the Tories are bad .

Drivers are well paid , conditions they have are good , including great pension, and brilliant safety welfare at work ,they have regular medical tests and allowed to stay off until any suspected health issuers are completely resolved and then return on light duty and familiarisation training even if they have driven for 20 plus years , yes I have a few close driver friends saw one wage at over £90k with overtime others are upwards of 40 k to 60k .

Arrivai Train guards get 35k plus OT think the National average is 29k can earn a lot more with Overtime due to absence and there a lot that , some got a 4% rise Dec 21 .

The folk I really feel sorry for are bus drivers doing equally responsible job for £10 .50 an hour .

Power and greed blackmail of the rail unions has been with us for decades , never mind the folks who need to go to work on minimum wages , they did not got to furlough wages were supported all through that pandemic others suffered job loss and 20% pay drop .

How will this turn out automated trains because of wage demands.

This is a convenient political left battle tactic , like the issues with Passports / DVLA all to cause chaos and uncertainty I'm sure Sir Kier will be outraged . IA Is at highest in 5 yrs amid signs that workplace militancy is growing , is it political or is real hardship is the question especially when you see there are more jobs and the national Wage up again , the latest rise is the third highest annual increase since the crash of 2008

Should we not be pulling together to get the economy going and folk to work on time ??????????

PS Their fight for P&O workers is a just one as is real poorly paid folk

How do you think the drivers got these conditions in the first place? From the goodness of their employers hearts? Such a bootlicker.

[life on mars]

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At least you admit the Tories are bad.

Not all some are real decent human beings who go the extra mile more than a lot of us they just have a difference of politcial opinion one could argue that a lot of the current Tories have a social awareness Mr George Osbourne for instance introduced the triple lock for pensioners what a wonderful idea that was , and they have raised tax allowances thresholds and minimum wages consistently since 2008 , saved millions of job during Covid via furlough , 400 billion giveaway is a number to fixate with , it huge and will probably come back to haunt them as will the quantitative easing measures all done to help folk .

[life on mars]

Re: RMT Strikes

How do you think the drivers got these conditions in the first place? From the goodness of their employers hearts? Such a bootlicker.

Your missing the point , they have it great, work by the unions , don't have to keep taking though

[life on mars]

Re: RMT Strikes

Train driver wages have got nothing to do with this strike or the rmt (with a few exceptions) . I share a lot of your feelings about the rmt leadership. Although I'm not sure they had much of a choice here. 3 years of pay freezes for most of the staff represented by the rmt, and the government were giving every indication that was going to continue.

I do understand that hence my mention of guards pay , its an overall union thing I'm pressing home , I'm sure ASLEF are aware and wating to strike . I hear the Metro trams /trams will have a huge impact on wages downwards so battle lines are drawn as companies look to reduce costs via automation and electrification.

I think there comes a time where a balance is needed and as a union you have to be careful what you wish for , and how many times you push , before its all broken up and taken away for future generations it happened in the car and steel industry

[chrisp_1927]

Re: RMT Strikes

I do understand that hence my mention of guards pay , its an overall union thing I'm pressing home , I'm sure ASLEF are aware and wating to strike . I hear the Metro trams /trams will have a huge impact on wages downwards so battle lines are drawn as companies look to reduce costs via automation and electrification.

I think there comes a time where a balance is needed and as a union you have to be careful what you wish for , and how many times you push , before its all broken up and taken away for future generations it happened in the car and steel industry

Agree with you there. I do think the govt could have sorted this l out out by offering around 3% months ago. I think most would have accepted that. Their complete refusal to discuss it at all has led many to believe we need to fight as they are coming for us.

[Feedback]

Re: RMT Strikes

I definitely had one, but it was late so God knows now.

[Sloop_Jon_Bee]

Re: RMT Strikes

Good on them, we need more people to wake up in this country and fight for better pay, terms and conditions. I never understand how another working class person can castigate another working class person for this.

On the money mate!
Spedger

[Sloop_Jon_Bee]

Re: RMT Strikes

Good on them, we need more people to wake up in this country and fight for better pay, terms and conditions. I never understand how another working class person can castigate another working class person for this.