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  • #46
    Re: **** the Jubilee

    Originally posted by Rjk View Post
    I have never been at all convinced that they do bring in tourists, all the numbers around that are extremely ropey.

    how many tourists actually see one of the royal family?
    what they come for is the history and OUR palaces, which they would have much better access to if there wasn't a family of freeloaders living in them.
    there are clear comparisons with other European countries in this respect.
    things like the changing of the guard etc tourists come to see, but there's no reason that would have to stop, and if the tourists could actually see inside Buckingham palace afterwards then I'd imagine a fair few more would probably come.
    I like that idea 👍

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    • #47
      Re: **** the Jubilee

      I think having an active royal family, as opposed to an ex royal family does bring in tourists; it makes it a historic as well as contemporary issue. The sheer numbers of global tourists milling around outside Buckingham Palace on any summer day is testament to that. Needless to say, there is no way to assess this and it's a fair point on opening up more buildings, something I do agree with.

      I think the main benefit in terms of foreign affairs is the soft power and general respect it brings the country. Although many countries may not want to adopt the model themselves, there is an aura about them which does carry weight abroad. The Queen is one of the few people on earth whom no country would seek to insult and whom the vast majority will have general respect for.

      If the Royals had any real power on domestic policy, I would be a raving republican, but they don't, so I'm not. I just don't see the big issue. President Blair? President Teresa May? These are the realistic alternatives and neither are exciting or offer much for me.

      The biggest ongoing democratic issue in the UK is not the Royal Family, but the House of Lords

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      • #48
        Re: **** the Jubilee

        Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
        I think having an active royal family, as opposed to an ex royal family does bring in tourists; it makes it a historic as well as contemporary issue. The sheer numbers of global tourists milling around outside Buckingham Palace on any summer day is testament to that. Needless to say, there is no way to assess this and it's a fair point on opening up more buildings, something I do agree with.

        I think the main benefit in terms of foreign affairs is the soft power and general respect it brings the country. Although many countries may not want to adopt the model themselves, there is an aura about them which does carry weight abroad. The Queen is one of the few people on earth whom no country would seek to insult and whom the vast majority will have general respect for.

        If the Royals had any real power on domestic policy, I would be a raving republican, but they don't, so I'm not. I just don't see the big issue. President Blair? President Teresa May? These are the realistic alternatives and neither are exciting or offer much for me.

        The biggest ongoing democratic issue in the UK is not the Royal Family, but the House of Lords
        a president doesn't need to have any actual power, there are plenty of examples where they don't Switzerland or Ireland for example is a ceremonial role.
        in Switzerland they have a new one every year

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        • #49
          Re: **** the Jubilee

          **** the Royals

          I’ll gladly enjoy the long weekend though

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          • #50
            Re: **** the Jubilee

            Originally posted by J R Hartley View Post
            **** the Royals

            I’ll gladly enjoy the long weekend though
            that's the spirit :thumbup:

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            • #51
              Re: **** the Jubilee

              Originally posted by dembethewarrior View Post
              I don't think the dutchess of York is from York either.
              It's Duchess, with a capital D. Show some respect.

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              • #52
                Re: **** the Jubilee

                Originally posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
                It's Duchess, with a capital D. Show some respect.
                why?

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                • #53
                  Re: **** the Jubilee

                  Originally posted by JamesWales View Post
                  I think having an active royal family, as opposed to an ex royal family does bring in tourists; it makes it a historic as well as contemporary issue. The sheer numbers of global tourists milling around outside Buckingham Palace on any summer day is testament to that. Needless to say, there is no way to assess this and it's a fair point on opening up more buildings, something I do agree with.

                  I think the main benefit in terms of foreign affairs is the soft power and general respect it brings the country. Although many countries may not want to adopt the model themselves, there is an aura about them which does carry weight abroad. The Queen is one of the few people on earth whom no country would seek to insult and whom the vast majority will have general respect for.

                  If the Royals had any real power on domestic policy, I would be a raving republican, but they don't, so I'm not. I just don't see the big issue. President Blair? President Teresa May? These are the realistic alternatives and neither are exciting or offer much for me.

                  The biggest ongoing democratic issue in the UK is not the Royal Family, but the House of Lords
                  1. The old tourist chestnut yet again. Having a Head of State to bring in the tourists seems mighty weird to me.
                  2. Presidents need not be the leaders of the political party in government e.g. Germany.

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                  • #54
                    Re: **** the Jubilee

                    So far, all I can gather is that next week the nation will be celebrating a fabricated reason for tourism and that people in other countries like something of ours, which is kind of ironic given our recent attitude to all things foreign.

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                    • #55
                      Re: **** the Jubilee

                      Originally posted by JamesWales View Post

                      If the Royals had any real power on domestic policy, I would be a raving republican, but they don't, so I'm not.
                      There have been accusations that they stick their oar in when it suits them.

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                      • #56
                        Re: **** the Jubilee

                        Lady Diana was probably a nice enough lady but she didn't do a lot for me , horn wise

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                        • #57
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                          Originally posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
                          1. The old tourist chestnut yet again. Having a Head of State to bring in the tourists seems mighty weird to me.
                          2. Presidents need not be the leaders of the political party in government e.g. Germany.
                          In any case Versailles seems to do very well for tourists still. Tourists don't come to meet the royals but they do like the buildings, artwork, history etc. We can keep all that stuff.

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                          • #58
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                            POLL: 54% are NOT interested in the #PlatinumJubilee. Only 11% are interested. See details at https://t.co/CndnWmB8T6 https://t.co/XEvIIf6rOs


                            why is this view never represented in any of the media

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                            • #59
                              Re: **** the Jubilee

                              Originally posted by Bluebirdman Of Alcathays View Post
                              There have been accusations that they stick their oar in when it suits them.
                              Prince Andrew being prime culprit.

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                              • #60
                                Re: **** the Jubilee

                                Originally posted by SLUDGE FACTORY View Post
                                Lady Diana was probably a nice enough lady but she didn't do a lot for me , horn wise
                                Imagine she took off her twin set and perls and changed into a rock chick like Sandy at the end of Grease .

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